Is Garcia Inevitable?

Was just watching ESPN with the sound off, and here came John Clayton‘s creepy Paul Williams face with the graphic underneath: Is Jeff Garcia a candidate for the Vikings?  I assume, since they were asking the question, the answer was “yes” (again, I had the sound off).  Of course this does not prove that the Vikings are interested in Garcia or that Garcia would consider signing with them were they to pursue him.  But, the tea-leaves are there to be read, and frankly, I think they say Jeff Garcia will be our quarterback in 2009.  Maybe it isn’t inevitable yet but it’s getting there.

But Matt Cassel is still out there right?  Maybe for someone…but not us.  We spent a huge package of draft picks last year on Jared Allen and can’t possibly afford to do something like that again.  Sorry, but that’s reality.  And with Cassel off the table…well, the options become meager pretty quick.  As I’ve said before, I would only accept Garcia as a last resort…and it looks like we’ve already gotten down to that last resort, unless something unexpected shakes loose, like Donovan McNabb getting incredibly irritated with the Eagles and demanding a trade.  I throw that out as red meat for the wild speculators.

Topics: Donovan Mcnabb, Espn, Jared Allen, Jeff Garcia, John Clayton, Matt Cassel, Minnesota Vikings, Paul Williams

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  • Mike

    I agree the process of elimination favors Garcia.  The Vikes can use him to push T-Jack, even though they believe he is used up.  His short stature forces scrambling out of the pocket, where he doesn’t handle the blitz well, like T-Jack.   One big advantage with Garcia is that he doesn’t close the door on the option of picking up Favre later if his arm feels better after the Jets have moved in a different direction.

  • http://firstandthen.blogspot.com footballfanliono

    The Only thing inevitable for Garcia is Retirement.  He is like 59.

  • Mike

    Jeff Garcia is 38.

  • Kurt

    I disagree.  If Matt Cassel was available in the draft at #22 you don’t think they would take him?  He could be worth a first and 3rd.  Go for it we need a consistent QB.  If not stay with T-Jack.  Whats the point of picking up someone on the verge of retirement?

  • Mike

    Trading for Matt Cassel would be the biggest gamble in Vikings history since Hershel Walker. Cassel is a former seventh rounder who, unlike the Vikings fifth rounder Booty, never even started one game at USC.  Cassel has only one year NFL experience and it is in a completely different offense than the Vikings’ West Coast Offense.  Cassel was thrown into the NFL’s all-time highest-scoring passing offense with 50 TD passes thrown to the likes of Pro Bowl receivers Randy Moss and Wes Welker and drove it into the ground with only 21 TD passes. He took the previously undefeated AFC champion Pats to an 11-5 record, only 2-4 against playoff teams and out of the playoffs. Cassel was sacked at a rate almost as high as the Vikings Frerotte. For this, Bill Belichick expects at least a first round draft choice and likely even more like a second rounder or Chester Taylor. Moreover, Cassel is due nearly $15 million for one year or otherwise expects a long term deal for something like $60 million, $30 million guaranteed. The Vikings should not commit to any quarterback, give away draft choices or exorbitant salaries. The Vikings should sign Garcia to battle T-Jack for the starting job, pick up Favre if he can get out of the Jets deal, and try to develop for the future drafted talent like Booty, and not from outside the system like Cassel.

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  • Dave

         I’d hate to say the only reason, but a major reason that Matt Cassel was successful last year is that he was well coached.  He had a staff that knew his strengths and weaknesses and could change the game plan to complement those abilities.  I believe that that that that coaching staff could given enough time could make a starting QB out of just about any draft worthy candidate.  I don’t have that confidence in chilly and the gang.  They don’t stray from their strategy at all it doesn’t matter if it is a 24 year old mobile rocketman or a stationary 38 year old vet.  They cannot coach.  Heck it’s been two years and they cant even put in a two minute offense.  Any QB they bring in will be like all the other stars on this team, Wasted talent!  
         

  • Mike

    Bill Belechick seeks to rook some team using the illusion created by the 6 game streak that catapulted Cassel to pseudo-stardom at end of the season.  Two 400 yard, 3 TD games against the Jets and Dolphins, rated 29th and 25th against the pass.  A 169 yard, 0 TD and 33 to 10 loss to the Steelers.  Then, 268 yards, 1 TD against the 32nd rated Seahawk pass D.  Only 218 yards, but 4 TDs against the Raiders.  And finally, 345 yards, 3 TDs against the 22nd rated Arizona pass D that was torched by T-Jack for 4 TDs the week before.  I think we need to see more of Cassel before selling the farm.

  • John

    Leftwich isn’t the greatest but he’s a massive upgrade over Jackson; I prefer that option to Garcia.

  • Mike

    The Sporting News points out that Matt Cassel’s late-season success came almost exclusively out of the shotgun spread formation and that  Cassel was not comfortable under center, often seeming “robotic and mechanical” and lacking a feel for the pass rush.  We don’t need this Cassel crap, especially since the Vkings are a running team.

  • jeege

    1. Sign Garcia to a two year deal with an optional third. (team option) Tons of incentives and a small base salary.

    2. Draft Josh Freeman

    3. Start Freeman when he turns out to be the next Ben Rothlesberger and cut Jeff Garcia before he can hit any incentives.

    4. Win me a super bowl.

  • http://Pennsylvania bernie jelinek

    Mike, you make some good points regarding Cassel, he played some great games down the stretch, yet all the big stats were run up against mediocre defenses. Don’t forget when we walloped Arizona, the Vikes were aided by several early turnovers, which gave TJ all he needed for a big game.  One thing i will say for Cassel is that he showed a lot of poise in all the games he filled in for Brady, but again, you’ve got to ask  just how good is he, and would he fit in our offense? Also, if you make some crazy deal like the Hershel Walker fiasco, it may backfire on us again and give New England 3 more Superbowls.

  • All Day 28

     Insert for the next year or two Jeff Garcia. I think it it top priority to get Garcia, he knows how to run the West Coast Offense and doesnt make alot of mistakes. Hand the ball off to Peterson, make some downfield throws, manage the clock, dink and dunk, find the tight end off the roll out. Garcia can be a good band aid for the next year or so. Please Please go out and sign him. It doesnt take a All Star QB to win the superbowl

  • One too many

    This team needs two things to win a superbowl. A better Quarterback and better coaching!! Getting Garcia is a step in there right direction. The vikes will however not get to the superbowl with Brad!

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  • http://Pennsylvania bernie jelinek

    All day28,  I agree with you on one hand in  that you don’t need an all-star QB to win the Superbowl, but on the other hand you name me one team in the last 10  Superbowls , besides the Baltimore Ravens, that actually won without, at least a good QB.  Although i like Garcia and Matt Hasselbeck for their great competiveness and sheer toughness, you’ve got to wonder how much gas is left in the tank. Garcia took a beating in Cleveland with no protection from the line, and he was dreadful. He rejuvenated his career somewhat in Philly, but in Tampa Bay, he was just so-so. His arm strength is in question, and some of his passes were’nt even close. Even in his earlier days with San Francisco, he was up and down. I will give him his scrambling abilities and short passing ability, but i really think he should contemplate retirement. As an organization, the Vikings really need a great QB, with a great arm, and young enough to bring us more winning seasons. A Carson Palmer-type QB is what Minnesota needs, not a band-aid. Being a fan for 39 years, i can’t wait 2 more years , it’s now or never, the defense is there, we need the offense.    

  • All Day 28

    I know our team is there in place to win and win the SB now. The D is there and the Running game is there. So are you all for going to get Garcia or what do you think the organization should do ? Are you saying we should try and make a trade for Carson Palmer if that is even a option. Give me your take on how we should fix the QB situation for the next year or two

  • Ryan

    Bring back Spergyn Wynn

  • http://Pennsylvania bernie jelinek

    I wish it were an option for Palmer, but it’s probably more wishful thinking on my part. Honestly, if it were our last straw, i might give Garcia a chance, but i guess i’d pretty much written him off just like Brett Favre, i believe he should retire. If  i were to choose between Garcia and Hasselbeck, I’d choose Hasselbeck. The reason being is Hasselbeck is a few years younger, has Superbowl experience and a stronger arm with accuracy. Also, don’t rule out McNabb or Sage Rosenfels. 

  • All Day 28

    I’d love to have McNabb if it was a possibility. Which i dont think it is and I dont think Hasselbeck is going to be a possibility either. Thats why im thinking Garcia is going to be in Purple this upcomming season. Umm Sage, ya, I live in Houston so believe me i get to watch alot of Texans football. He tries way too hard and makes way to many mental mistakes. He does have a good arm, but I’d take Garcia over Sage, hell i will even say i’d rather let Tjax have the team again this year then Sage

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    as much as philly says they are committed to mcnabb, do you think on draft day, they would consider a first round draft pick for him considering they have kolb as qb and already have 2 first round picks????? wow would’nt that be a coup for philly, and minny would get their boy?????

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    also by trading mcnabb, they would free up a ton of cap money that would allow them to sign 3 first round draft picks?

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    but chilly needs to get ziggy to pull the triggy

  • One too many

    It’s gonna be Garcia. Mcnabb would be the worlds greatest fix for the vikes, but I can’t see that  happining. The vikes do however need to do something fast! We have a window of less than 3 years to make a run at the sb!!

  • http://www.insidetheiggles.com Scott

    McNabb will not be traded guys. Stop dreaming.

  • Ryan

    Sweet, Pawlenty met with the Wilf’s earlier this week, they said the Wilf’s were please with the outcome.

  • http://Pennsylvania bernie jelinek

    One rip on Donavan McNabb is that he can’t win the big game, which coincidentally was the same spell that haunted Daunte Culpepper’s  career.  Do i hope that the Vikings get to the Superbowl? Of course, but i really want to see them win it if they get there. We can’t afford to be like the Chicago Bears when they played the Colts a few years back. Chicago had the better team on defense, yet they lost the game because their QB Rex Grossman really played bad, and it made the Colts defense look good. The Vikings have the defense to get us there, but what good would that be if Jackson or Ferotte were at the helm? Is Jackson any better than the previous season, i would say no. He always seems to panic, and throw the bad interception, especially when the games’ on the line. The teams that consistently make the playoffs are the teams with good QB’s, such as Brady, Manning, Rivers,etc. Another big problem is the play calling, it’s terrible. Remember when Brian Billick gave us excitement on offense with his smart play calling. Rehire Billick, either as offensive coordinator or head coach, get somebody in there that knows offense. One other rap is on the defense, believe it or not. As long as i’ve been a fan, why is it that we always let the other team get a first down when it’s third down and 25yds. to go? Buckle down guys, don’t give up the big play on third down. Hey, maybe Jackson could shock all the fans and have a Pro Bowl season this year, but i would’nt bet on it, and i doubt Jeff Garcia would lead the Vikes to the bowl, no matter how optimistic fans are. All around, it’s going to be a tough call to make in choosing a starter, we might try choosing a team leading QB, hopefully a winner this time. 

  • One too many

    I agree with Bernie about the poor coaching.There is no dout that A good QB would play a major role in helping our chances to get to the super bowl. But, what if we had Bill Belicheck at the helm. I bet he would put a system in place that would win games. That includes  winning games with the  QB’s  we have know.  I would love to find  the right QB, and  mcnabb or garcia  would be a step up. (many steps in mcnabbs  case.) The coaching is what is likely to keep us from getting to the superbowl either way.