Sep 21, 2013; College Station, TX, USA; Texas A&M Aggies quarterback Johnny Manziel (2) celebrates with teammates after defeating the Southern Methodist Mustangs 42-13 at Kyle Field. Mandatory Credit: Troy Taormina-USA TODAY Sports

NFL Draft Rumors: Vikings Still In Play For Johnny Manziel


 

There hasn’t been quite so much talk about Johnny Manziel to the Vikings in recent weeks, for whatever reason.

Maybe people have just bought into the idea that Manziel is not a Mike Zimmer guy. Or maybe the steam for players like Teddy Bridgewater and Blake Bortles has obscured Manziel somewhat.

For what it’s worth, at least one insider suggests that Viking fans shouldn’t give up on Manziel quite yet.

Albert Breer says Manziel is still the guy generating “the most conversation” among NFL executives. The perception he says is that the Buccaneers, Rams and Vikings could still be in play.

If those are the three teams in play for Manziel, and all are willing to use their first pick to get him, then the Vikings will be out of luck because St. Louis and Tampa Bay both pick ahead of them.

If the Vikings really, truly covet Manziel, they would have to trade up to #1 in order to guarantee his acquisition. To get that trade done, they would have to give up multiple picks including, most likely, a 2015 first rounder.

Well, some people might say, if you want Johnny Football bad enough, why not make the deal? Why not just get your quarterback and get on with it?

Such an argument will be very compelling to anyone sold on the idea that Manziel is a slam dunk future star. And not so compelling to those who see lots of red flags floating around Manziel.

I personally can’t see it happening, but I’ve been fooled many times before. If Rick Spielman has identified Manziel as a potential future face of the franchise, and he’s willing to part with multiple picks to make it happen?

Then he should go ahead and do it. It’s his neck on the line, not mine.

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  • Don Andrew Halvorson

    Neither of those teams need a QB. I’m really confused as to the logic of their interest. I mean, it’s clearly smokescreen.

    • David Mallow

      the Rams and Bucs both need a QB actually.. Bradford isn’t the answer nor is Glennon… I believe they will both take a QB at some point during the draft… hopefully Manziel his in the top 3 so Minnesota doesn’t have to worry about drafting another QB next year

      • Don Andrew Halvorson

        The Rams would be foolish to not ride Bradford for one more year because he has never had an offense capable of producing. The Rams are just trying to sell their pick.

        The Buccs have two QBs on their roster already. Why would they go QB in the first? Clearly, they want MN to trade up to take a QB so one of the other options isn’t in the top 6. If Bortles, Watkins, Robinson, Clowney, and Mack are gone in the top 6, they only need one more play to get Matthews and Evans to fall to them. They want Evans and can’t have Buffalo or Detroit trading up and grabbing him before they can.

  • MikeH123

    I like Manziel but hate trading up. I don’t like putting all your eggs in one basket. It is ridiculous to say if a team likes a single player they should be willing to give up all their draft picks like Mike Ditka did for Ricky Williams or when the Redskins gave the Rams three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick for the right to get the often injured RG3.

  • Da Vikings

    I don’t mind trading because If you want a guy you have to go get him if you think someone else will take him before you. If we leave this draft with a quarterback, linebacker, and a safety I consider it successful because we would fill our team needs.A franchise quarterback is the most important position on the team and we’re the only team in the division without one.

    • MikeH123

      I agree the Vikings 2 biggest needs are QB and LB. But the Vikings have 10, not 3, needs – QB, 3rd down RB, OG, X WR, DE, DT, ILB, OLB, S and slot CB. And this draft is deep.

      • Da Vikings

        We can get a 3rd down back in the 4th or later rounds same goes for OG. We have enough quality WR’s anything else is depth. We have three starting caliber DE’s, drafted Floyd in the first round and have Fred Evans to rotate, not saying we can’t get more help at those positions but we can always sign undrafted free agents. We need linebackers a safety and a outside CB because Captain can play the slot.

        • MikeH123

          Like I said, the Vikings need 10 not 3 positions so we can’t trade our draft picks to move up and I don’t want to give up future first and second rounders. Please also see past Viking Age articles. We don’t have an X WR because Simpson is bad. Apparently we need a different DT because Floyd is a bust (the reason everyone is talking about the Vikings drafting Donald). We don’t have a good pass rusher at DE (or OLB) because Jared Allen was not replaced. All of the LBs are poor or unproven especially since Greenway is declining. And they need another CB whether it is in the slot or outside.

          • Da Vikings

            How is Floyd a bust ask of a sudden? He was considered by many tho be the best DT in last year’s draft, and was being compared to Geno Atkins when we hired Zimmer. If we draft Donald then our GM should get fired for wasting a pick on Floyd when we could’ve draft a linebacker. About the receivers we have Jennings, Patterson on the outside and Wright playing the slot Simpson and Rodney Smith should battle for the number 4 and 5 spot. Draft the QB that you want this year do you won’t go into next year looking for one.

          • MikeH123

            I am only repeating what I read. Floyd has been fat and lazy so now Donald is being compared to Atkins. Patterson has failed as X WR causing his move to Z, thus moving Jennings to slot, and leaving Simpson as the X. Add the drafting Ponder at QB and you find the Vikings re-drafting at the same positions. Yes, the GM should be fired.

          • Da Vikings

            I just hope we can get it right this year. We need to find some balance before AP wears out.

          • MikeH123

            I have the same priority: the Vikings need to build an offense around AD. They must get a QB in the first 35 picks, add speedy X WR before 5th round, and get OG and 3rd down back somewhere. But Spielman doesn’t have the courage to draft a QB early after getting burned by Ponder (even if Manziel or Bortles fall to him). And look at the new lead article where Zimmer is calling for Donald at #8. Hopeless!!!

          • johnnybanky

            Don’t buy into that Donald talk. 2 years ago everyone knew we were drafting OT but 2 days before the draft smoke screens came out about us wanting to go Safety or WR. Cleveland traded up one spot to acquire trent richardson

          • MikeH123

            Why would the Vikings use a DT like Donald as a smoke screen if the Vikings and other teams think Floyd is good?

          • johnnybanky

            Bc if the Vikings act like they are int in Donald teams that really need DT would trade up. No reason to argue we will find out in 30 mins! SKOL!

          • Da Vikings

            How do you like our day 1 picks we filled to major needs.. let’s go Vikings!!

          • Da Vikings

            We paid Griffin to rush the passer we should at least give him a chance before writing him off. I agree with you 100% about our linebackers being unproven.

  • Justin Weishaar

    Call me for having ice water in my viens but I don’t think that the bucks will take him at 7. No nibbles on glenon and deafting a qb high destroys his vale. They need lb. Wr. Ot. Ss. And they are going to waste a 7th pick on a qb. Lovie wont survive the year. What they want is titans arizona or dallas to offer the farm for the pick. And no one is biting. Sorry they go ot or wr.
    Johnny or bortles will be there at 8. And I reall do beleive he will be a viking unless housta. Trades down to like 7 or 6. Then we jave no shot at him