Sep 22, 2013; Minneapolis, MN, USA; Minnesota Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder (7) throws during the second quarter against the Cleveland Browns at Mall of America Field at H.H.H. Metrodome. Mandatory Credit: Brace Hemmelgarn-USA TODAY Sports

Christian Ponder Has Lost Paul Allen


Matt Cassel is the starter of the present, Teddy Bridgewater is the star of the future, and Christian Ponder…is the fourth-year former starting quarterback who’s being treated like an afterthought.

Now that he no longer figures in the Vikings’ future plans except as possible trade bait, Ponder is seeing all his former boosters jump ship on him and swim away as fast as possible to avoid being taken down by the suction. Even Paul Allen has bailed.

Yup. Good old PA, who never met a Viking he wouldn’t root for until the bitter end, has thrown in the towel on Christian Ponder. PA wondered in his most recent “Bits and Boredom” piece where Christian Ponder figures in the grand scheme of things now that Cassel and Bridgewater are locked into their roles. The outlook for Ponder? Not good.

So, what does [the current QB situation] mean for Christian Ponder? What are the chances he will be cut before we start the season? I bring this up because (a) I haven’t heard anything good about him this offseason and (b) roster spots are so precious keeping three QBs is going the route of the flip phone.

You heard that right. Paul Allen is openly wondering if Ponder will get cut before the season. This isn’t a hater doing his hating, this is Paul Allen, a guy who would rather stick his arm in fire up to the elbow than say anything bad about a Viking player.

Sure, Allen has criticized Ponder in the past, but this is more than just criticism, this is flat out dismissal. That “I haven’t heard anything good about him” line is more than just a rip, it’s a brush-off. It’s like saying “he’s dead to me.”

If Paul Allen can’t conjure anything good to say about you, then there is nothing good left to be said. You are finished. It is over. Say goodnight.

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  • David Mallow

    he won’t be cut, traded possibly, but not just outright released..IMO…

    • Cool Jack

      Like the logo….

    • holymomentumbatman#84

      You’re right David. Most casual Viking fans…those that live in the vicinity and merely attend a few home games, and those that are outside the state, and root for the team from all corners, don’t really pay any attention to any of the inner workings of the team, IMHO, are just waiting for Ponder to get the boot in the same fashion as Favre or Steve Smith (Panthers former #1 go to WR) did. Again, IMO, they’re n

  • Bob T

    I too hung until I couldn’t hang no more. At the beginning of last season I bought my wife a females jersey for $100 with Ponder’s name and # on it. I thought , this is his do or die time, and I will back him. What a shame. It really is tough to be a GOOD Q.B. in the N.F.L. Some end up late bloomers like Brad Johnson, and maybe that will happen for Christian, but I am with Mr. Allen, he is a waste of space. I am pretty sure Mr. Turner has probably seen enough too. Maybe a 3rd round pick for him. We got Critchen and McKinnon in 3rd round this year. I would take a 3rd rounder. SKOL VIKINGS

    • Ryan Johnson

      most we would get is 5th IMO. Blaine Gabbert got a 6th rounder from San Fran, and he was taken before Ponder in the same draft. I’d say Christian is better than gabbert, but I don’t think a lot of teams are going to give up a valuable 3rd rounder for someone who would be brought on as their back up.

      • Ryan Johnson

        Either way though if they trade him for at 5 6 or 7 round pick they would also gain the cap space back for his base salary (1.75 mil) because another team would pick up his contract. This money would rollover into our cap space for next year so that would be a plus.

    • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

      Really? His last two complete games his weekly passer rating put him at the top of NFL quarterbacks. Wasted space?

  • Cool Jack

    PA..what a class act and true Viking Fan….!

    • Bob T

      In this business, sometimes you have to be realistic, even if it sucks.

    • holymomentumbatman#84

      I’ll betcha he can’t even spell “hypocrite”. Maybe, if he’d Google “Benedict Arnold”, he would learn something about himself. What a tool.

  • MikeH123

    At least PA didn’t call Ponder diseased (his fav word). The Vikings won’t release Ponder because they don’t want the Packers to get and develop him.

    • Robert L

      Why would the Packers want to pick him up let alone waste time trying to develop him? They have this QB named Aaron Rodgers who happens to be one the best if not the best QB in the entire NFL. By the time he’s finished as the Packers starting QB, Ponder won’t even be worth a roster spot as the 3rd string QB on ANY team. “But Aaron Rodgers was injured for half the year last year” you say? Well Christian Ponder has been injured more often during his career than Rodgers and Rodgers missed time because of a freak accident by getting absolutely destroyed from a hit that likely won’t happen again.. not because he’s some fragile QB with a mangina like Ponder. I even hate Aaron Rodgers and the Packers so I can’t believe I’m even praising Rodgers (it’s just the truth)… I guess I just hate Ponder even more and think he’s worthless as a QB in the NFL. Yeah, he may look good every now and then, but he looks terrible twice as often as the times he actually looks good.

      • MikeH123

        Ponder looked great compared to Packer backups Flynn and Tolzien last year.

      • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

        That’s just simply not true. I think that when he has bad plays, you are just magnifying them with your frustration of him. His good plays far outweigh his bad plays, otherwise he wouldn’t have a completion percentage of closer to 70% than not. I will tell you that his bad plays are pretty dramatic and come at the worst time. But he is not alone on the turnovers. The best player on the team has had more than his share of those as well. As far as his injuries,while it is true it cost the team much in the post-season 2012, and could be an issue, as he plays much tougher than he is. But, he is better than Packers current backups. Given his completion percentage is better than most quarterbacks in history even great ones, I think he has a huge upside, once he relaxes into the role.

        • Robert L

          What? Christian Ponder has a career 60.2 completion%… that’s no where close to 70%, that’s barely a 60% completion%. He has a career 3.8 TD% to a 3.4 INT% with a 14-20-1 record and a 77.3 QBR. Those are hardly numbers to suggest his good plays far outweigh his bad ones. And the only reason his numbers even look close is because of his ONE (2012) season when he had a respectable 18 TDs to 12 INTs while he still only had a 62.1 completion% and 81.2 QBR while never having a season in which he’s thrown for at least 3,000 yards. His other 2 seasons? 13-13 TDs/INTs (2011) and 7-9 TDs/INTs (2013) with an average completion percentage of 58.9 and QBR of 74.0 with a 4-13-1 record. I hardly think I’m “magnifying them because of my frustrations with him” because 2 of his 3 seasons have proven that it’s warranted. He is not a good starting QB and there is no proof to show otherwise.

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            First of all I never said he had a 70% completion percentage, I said it was closer to 70% than not. 70% is a elite level of play, and CP7 has more games with a close to 70% completion percentage than he doesn’t . Yes it avg. out for his entire career to 60.2% As far as never having a 3000 yard Season? You are just flat wrong. He has only played one full regular season, and has never played a full season(missing out on 2012 Post season) due to an elbow injury, and yes it “WAS” A 3000 YARD Season. 2935 passing and 253 yards rushing that is a 3188 yard season. He had 20 TD to 12 Int.’s (Yes his own 2 rushing touchdowns count)
            That is his only complete Season. You can’t judge QB play on a partial season unless it was just that bad. 2013 he posted a 63.6% completion. With his last two complete games a passer rating over 100. This is not bad, in fact it is quite good for a relatively new quarterback. Which he still is. Now your Win-loss record shows nothing. Any QB can win with a number one defense in the NFL. Take Matt Cassel he played in KC with a top defense and managed to make it to the Playoffs one year.
            No disrespect but where do you get your stats from a cracker jack box?

          • Robert L

            First of all, I said he’s never had a season where he’s THROWN for at least 3,000 yards. And secondly, if we’re going by “he’s closer to 70% than not” to try and prove that he’s somehow a good QB, well Tarvaris Jackson is closer to 70% than not at 59.6 career completion percentage. Nobody with half a brain would suggest he’s worthy of being a starter with identical (differences of less than .5% in each) TD% and INT% while actually having a better QBR. You are proving nothing but my point and I’m no longer going to argue about Christian Ponder.. he sucks.. end of story!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I think I gave you three very good examples to support my case. Elway, Namath and Montana. Early on they had good and bad games and were not consistent, But all, except maybe Namath, played with great defenses, and they grew into their role. CP7 doesn’t have that luxury. Is he a big play maker like them? I say yes!
            Tarvaris Jackson lol, hey he has a Superbowl Ring with a QB rating of 140.2 last year, that might me the best rating in the NFL.

          • Robert L

            And I gave you Tarvaris Jackson to support my case and can give you plenty more if you’d really like. Comparing Ponder to 3 HOF QBs does not support your case especially when Ponder had his worst statistical season last year in his 3rd season… good QBs don’t regress, they get better.

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            lol….I don’t know. I didn’t see much regression from Ponder his 3rd year. He threw for more consistent yardage, he had a higher completion ratio. He pressed a bit and threw a few more INT’s mostly because…..he didn’t have Rudolph or Percy Harvin to throw to. That’s pretty much the big difference. He still wasn’t comfortable with the new Receivers. It took him awhile to throw to Jennings while he was covered. Once he realized Jennings can outfight his coverage to get to the ball, he felt better about throwing it into coverage. If Patterson would have started the year at WR1 I think CP7 would have had a winning Record. He hit Patterson almost every time he lined up. He had good chemistry with Cordarrelle and good production.

          • Robert L

            He didn’t have Percy Harvin and that’s why he threw more ints? So what you’re essentially saying is that Percy made Ponder a better QB than he really is. He didn’t have Rudolph? Umm yes, he did. Rudolph didn’t go down to injury until half way through the season… AFTER Ponder went down to injury. Ponder also had Greg Jennings who has more than proved to be a good WR in this league to where Ponder shouldn’t have dropped off as much as he did all because he lost Percy Harvin. Look at the WR/TE corps that Russell Wilson has had… they’ve been no better than anything the Vikings have had but why is Russell Wilson so much better? Because he’s a good QB who makes everyone around him better… Christian Ponder hasn’t come anywhere even close to doing that. To say Ponder didn’t regress is you trying way too hard to prove yourself and it isn’t working. The only thing he didn’t regress on was his completion percentage and even then it was only 3% above his career %. And that’s not really proving much… look at his 2012 season, his best season. He started the first 4-5 weeks of that season leading the league in completion % at something like 73% and regressed so bad the rest of the season that he finished at only 62%… granted I know that there was no way he would’ve finished well over 70% like he was the first few weeks but that still takes a lot of poor throwing to fall THAT far and does nothing but make someone think he would’ve fell below the 63% he was completing before going down while having a career worst td-int ratio. He most definitely regressed and that’s why he couldn’t take the job back from Cassel when he did become healthy. And there’s no stats to show how lucky he was not to have many more passes intercepted that were simply dropped and even though they were dropped, it still goes to show how terrible he is when it comes to passing. It also doesn’t show how many times he threw passes that landed at his receivers feet which he is very well known for doing a nice handful of times during a season. And I haven’t even mentioned again how easily banged up he gets like I mentioned in my very first comment. Also, his pocket presence absolutely sucks! And as this article pretty much points out, he’s been the worst QB between him, Cassel and Bridgewater during these offseason workouts. If he was as good of a QB as you’re trying to make him out to be, he would easily be able to outperform Matt Cassel and he can’t even do that. Until he starts to perform up to the likes of Elway, Namath and Montana like you wanted to compare him to, he will be no better than Tarvaris Jackson as his career stats are almost identical to Jacksons only as I’ve stated, Jackson actually has a better career QBR in only one less game. And QBR is not meaningless like a QBs career record like you said… which btw Jackson also has a better career record at 17-17-0.

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Yes, Percy harvin could get open! He could throw timing routes with Percy, because he was fast enough to grab them before the DB’s. Rudolph was never 100% at the begining of the season and took limited reps.
            Carlson was his tight end. Really? Come on the Seattle offense is stacked with playmakers that can beat out the CB’s. Russell Wilson is a pretty good QB as well. Who knows. If he doesn’t get the opportunity you will be right. If he does It’s up to him to prove it.

          • Robert L

            LOL a WR corps of an oft-injured Sidney Rice, Golden Tate who he now no longer has, Doug Baldwin, I’m not even going to mention Percy Harvin because he was injured for all of last season except for the game against the Vikes and the Superbowl and he suffers injuries every year and then whoever else as I don’t even know who their other WRs are which says a lot as clearly they’re nothing special is not any better than Greg Jennings, Jerome Simpson, Jarius Wright, Kyle Rudolph, Cordarrelle Patterson.. and I’m not even mentioning Adrian Peterson vs Marshawn Lynch as Peterson is obviously better… again, Russell Wilson is just that much better. You can keep trying to throw shit at the wall hoping it’ll stick, but nothing you can say about Christian Ponder will prove that he’s a good QB… the only thing you have is the hope that he’ll become as good as Elway, Namath or Montana. Good luck with that. Lol

          • Robert L

            And he had Kyle Rudolph for every single one of his starts last season… it is an absolute fact… so you cannot say he didn’t have him last year… again, trying to throw shit at the wall hoping it’ll stick!

          • Robert L

            Sorry, not every single start… all but one start Ponder had Rudolph. I was mostly right though because that one start Ponder didn’t have him, Ponder himself got injured so basically I was still correct.

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Listen yes, Rudolph was listed as a starter but it was on a limited basis. He wasn’t out there as a Receiver every set like he was in 2012. There was no Alpha receivers like other teams. CP7 had to spread it around evenly to 6-7 receivers. None of the players other than Wright’s occasionally beating the Secondary deep, were play makers for CP7 early in the year. They simply caught the ball and went down. Some, yards after the catch could have made a huge difference in CP7′s stats and Win Loss record last year.

          • Gary

            Seattle’s defense, that’s what got them a super bowl . Russell Wilson is a fair qb, still to early in his career to call him great. Wilson had under a 100 yards in passing and a bunch of under 150 yard games throughout the season Mr. stats guy.

          • Robert L

            Forget the bad stats? Lol what? Oh so all stats are meaningless now? Unless they’re good which then would obviously show that Ponder is an amazing QB? I suppose that works ONLY for Christian Ponder though, right? I mean forget about Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Jarmarcus Russell, Mark Sanchez, Vince Young, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker and the countless other QB busts… all their bad stats still count, right? And Bill Musgrave didn’t make Ponder throw bad passes or interceptions. Nice try. I’ll admit Christian Ponder is a good QB if and only if he proves that he is and he has not done so. Go to bed, troll.

          • Os J Ou

            u know how as a kid ud spin a globe and see where ur finger lands? if offensive series were somehow made into a globe and we could soon it, ponders globe would more often than not end up with our finger on a punt, or turnover. get over ur love for ponder. Its embarrassing. I get the feeling u told ppl early in his career that he would be awesomeand ur the type of person who hates being wrong. If he was so great, harvin would still be here, Jennings wouldn’t have praised cassell so much, and Kevin Williams wouldn’t have talked smack abt him, other teammates wold have defended him in his lowest moments. Not a peep from them. I’m pretty sure they know better than us the skill level of their teammates on the field. And stop with ur silly ass stat distortion to create a man that never existed in ponder. He’s simply not good. I’m starting to think ur a packet fan trolling on here trying to see of u can fool ppl into not believing our lying eyes. Nuff said

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I am sorry didn’t know Kevin Williams was still a Viking? Go eat your wheaties kid.

          • Os J Ou

            yeah ok. Wheaties..check.

            In the meantime if u don’t know what I’m referring to with the Kevin Williams comments, try and keep up next time.

            I’m just calling bullshit when I see it. U throw around these fake stats Luke its fact just to try and back up ur silly argument. Ponder has been throwing interceptions all ota. Yet u try and claim he didn’t. His first few days he had like 4 and was the least sharp of all three. The only decent day he seemed to have was the last day in which he did drive for a td in Tue one minute drill. But stop with ur never gI see it. And ur stats are exactly that. I just don’t get why u have to liet intercepted in otas crap. He’s been getting picked all over the place these past 2 wee

            And what’s with ur silly stat abt more often than not he throws close to 70% completion?? That stat is ridiculously fake or absolutely worthless bc who the hell would even keep that kind of stat?? Yet u try and claim it as real.

            Im not even gonna talk abt him trying to compare him to hot players. That one literally had me laughing. U sound absolutely ridiculous. Seriously….its one thing to give ponder a fair shake despite his horrible play. But this garbage ur spewing with fake stats and ridiculous comparisons is absolutely embarrassing to read and intellectually dishonest. and frankly its an insult to ppl that have actually been paying attention to what’s going on with the team and know ur just talking out of ur ass and just plain lying. I call bullshit when i see it

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Why do you have to go there? Look kid lying is BAD!!!. It would have been impossible for Christian to get intercepted at the first OTA’s because they were not throwing against a defense. Oops….duh…..BUSTED! Why do all liars claim everyone else is a liar? That is one thing I will never understand about people like you. While I admire your enthusiasm, it is misplaced by your propensity for lying. So do yourself a favor. Clean up your act. Stay honest, then I might give anything you say some merit.

          • Os J Ou

            yeah….what was that you were saying abt “lying” and “busted?”

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            OTA one they did have 7 on 7 drills. I forgot about that. So, I concede on the not having a defense, technically you were right about that. But you are still making up the INt’s where do you see that? I can show you proof of what i say about Cassel and Bridgewaters int’s but where is CP7′s? Just tell me what the site is that shows this and I will look it up.

          • Os J Ou

            they keep taking my post down with links proving that

            1. the quarterbacks have been throwing against their own defenses since OTA #1 (once again you lie)

            2: Ponder has been intercepted during these OTAs which you claim he hasn’t (once again you lie.)

            you do realize we have google to prove you lie right?

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            That’s funny they have no problem posting links for me. You are wrong. But I would like to rip into some reporter that is making up things. If you say that he has thrown these mythical interceptions. Who said it and where? Also who is this mythical DB that we have who is intercepting him. Derek Cox is the only guy to pick him off so far Period. But you are so convinced, I am curious where you are getting this false information?

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            How is having an increase in Completion percentage a worse statistical year? He did his part, he threw a catchable ball that was caught 63.6 percent of the time. His Passing Yardage was consistently close to 200-250 this year. That is an improvement in consistency.

          • Gary

            Get over the bad stats. Majority of those stats are Musgrave’s poor play calling, dropped balls, just ask Patterson in that Greenbay game last year when he dropped the go ahead score for the win. Should of been no tie. Ponder complete over 80 percent that game with , count them 5 dropped balls.

          • Robert L

            Forget the bad stats? Lol what? Oh so all stats are meaningless now? Unless they’re good which then would obviously show that Ponder is an amazing QB? I suppose that works ONLY for Christian Ponder though, right? I mean forget about Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Jarmarcus Russell, Mark Sanchez, Vince Young, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker and the countless other QB busts… all their bad stats still count, right? And Bill Musgrave didn’t make Ponder throw bad passes or interceptions. Nice try. I’ll admit Christian Ponder is a good QB if and only if he proves that he is and he has not done so. And let’s pretend that the Vikings won that game against the Pack. He’s still 3-6 last season and still lost his job to Cassel and now eventually to Bridgewater. Yup, that Christian Ponder is sure a good QB! Go to bed, troll.

          • Gary

            I’m just saying stats aren’t everything, you can’t measure a persons heart and sometimes stats don’t tell the whole story.You show your lack of football knowledge listing all of those young qbs, calling some of them a bust already in their young careers.Qbs need time to develop period !

          • Gary

            Plus blaming Ponder for those games we lost last year, shows your complete lack of knowledge for the game period !
            Any moron that watched the games last year knew our defense couldn’t stop a moron like you playing football.

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Robert the Team had the worst defense in the NFL. Let’s just get off of any of the Offensive players. They did their part. The Defense didn’t do theirs, just let it rest.

    • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

      That would be the ultimate reality check for Minnesota Fans. To have Ponder come in and beat Minnesota year in and year out. A year or two of development, I could see that. He plays well against green bay so, I.could see them wanting him. Just like Frazier getting stomped by Freeman and Tampa bay, had a big reason why Minnesota took a chance on him.

  • Tyler Erhardt

    Does Zinski, or PA for that matter, use sense in their musings? Ponder is not the starter but he is the backup should Cassell go down. Zimmer/Turner are not going to subject TB to a stressful/bad situation should Cassell go down. TB isn’t the 3rd stringer because he isn’t better than Ponder, it’s because he has the most to lose should the backup be called up and the team fails. If we lose under Ponder (as the back up) then we lose nothing. If we lose with TB (as the backup) then we lose hope for the future, or at least the fickle fans would. Then we (and TB) would hear nothing but, BUST this and BUST that about TB. Ponder is insurance for two reasons. He knows our team/players, and we have nothing to lose with him except games. However, there is no guarantee we would win with TB in there because there is not always a clear reason for losses. You could have all the talent in the world and still lose but who would we fans (not me, but most fans do) blame?

    • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

      Lol, your awesome, keep Ponder around as the marter for the team. That’s classic!!! But, I do agree with you. Actually, if you look at the stats of Ponder, he just can’t throw to the left for some reason. His passing up the middle destroys Cassel. While alomst all Cassels ints are up the gut, which is worrisome, Ponder won’t throw a pic to the middle. He will almost entirely throw all his pics to the left side. I think you find out why and if its fixable he would be a good qb to have stick around.

      • Gary

        I agree, Ponder will be fine. He just needs to adjust to the scheme and have some confidence put in him. We all no he can make all the throws, he just needs to be more consistent.

      • holymomentumbatman#84

        NO OFFENSE INTENDED, but, it’s “you’re”, “martyr”, and “picks”.

        • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

          lol, sorry about that.. I typed it from my phone. Software autofill constantly changes the spelling of my words. I will fix that.

    • holymomentumbatman#84

      Well stated indeed, Tyler. Good post. SKOL VIKINGS!!

    • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

      It’s true, a wide receiver runs a poor route, and everyone says what a horrible throw, what was the Quarterback thinking!!? The whole team has to click together. That has been the biggest challenge in 2013.
      In 2011, CP7 managed to beat Cam Newton and the Panthers, (Whereas Matt Cassel absolutely got demolished by Cam and the Panthers in 2013)
      In 2012, I think the team played better than their parts. Christian came out and played like one of the Best Quarterback in the NFL for the first 5 or 6 weeks, hell he beat 49rs in San Francisco where he outperformed Alex Smith(in passing and Rushing) and walked away with a W, having the only Rushing Touchdown against 49rs at that point in the season. Ponder outperformed Andrew Luck, yet with one extra field goal, the Colts still managed to win.. Against the Redskins, Christian Ponder put up 354 yards, out-passing RG3, but still lost due to the secondary unable to stop the RG3′s rushes.
      I will stop there yet, people forget all the great plays this quarterback is capable of. A solid defense, a balanced attack offense, with occasional designed QB run plays, and CP7 could be back on top. So why should we keep him? That is just a silly question. I am completely with you. He has shown Pro-Bowl Potential, and just hasn’t consistently lived up to it yet. But you are right, he is a player definitely worth sticking around.

      • Gary

        100 percent correct ! Only people who no football and understand the game no this. Fans who say he’s a bum, are just geeks who never played the sport.

      • Daniel Laxen

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t the Panthers were one of the better defenses in the league last year?…It’s probably a good thing he didn’t play vs. them?

        • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

          I get your point Dan, and you are definitely right Carolinas defense was much better 2013 than in 2011. But, still to get shut down like Cassel and the Vikings did was ugly. Getting shut down is embarrassing.

  • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

    As far as not hearing good things out of ota’s about CP7. Thatas simply not true. He had the lowest amount of int.s of the three qb. In fact he only had the one “ugly” one that derek snatched during a two minute drill that he only took 2 snaps prior to this drill. Whereas Cassel and Bridgewater had several int.s throughout OTA’s. Also, Ponder had zero interceptions with first team reps. The reports from Zimmer and Speilman were that both Cassel and Ponder were out ther “slinging it wel”l early on. Sounds like Ponder had one poor pass out of the OTA’s, unfortunately it was when all the reporters were there. I wouldn’t read into that too much. Pre-season games will be the real tell where the qbs stand. I am just glad that there are 3 qbs that can compete and push each other. I hope the best performer pre season gets the nod. Because it is a brutal schedule, with no room for mediocrity.

  • manbearpig01

    Tough to just cut him considering how much he is guaranteed. Since his attitude has been right, I just don’t see any real reason to just release him.

  • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

    OTA’s this week, if it’s any indication Matt Cassel will not be the starter. Cassel throwing 3 int. in drills, Bridgewater throwing 1 int. and a couple bad throws. Ponder came in and looked sharp and accurate throwing well with zero interceptions.

  • Daniel Laxen

    They will carry 3 QBs and Ponder’s salary isn’t big, so I’d expect him to be a Viking this season…He’s awful and he makes up for that with a noodle arm…I too held out hope as long as possible. I’d suggest that any QB that joins the Vikings NOT select #7 upon signing. Seems like the kiss of death since Randal Cunningham left?

    • Gary

      Enough with the noodle arm , that’s a ridiculous statement . Ponder’s arm sstrength is very good, plenty of velocity. You should question Bridgewater’s arm vevelocity, thats the knock on him coming out of college

      • Daniel Laxen

        That’s not a ridiculous statement considering those lobbed out pattern resulting in INTs and his refusal to throw the timing routes. His arm strength was a problem after his surgeries at FSU. He had a problem also with his bursa and couldn’t play vs. the Packers in that playoff loss. Receivers waiting on deep balls because he has to put too much air under them on deep routes is a problem as well…If you like Ponder that’s OK. As an NFL QB he is better relegated to a backup role if he plays much at all. There’s quite enough tape on him now and every defense has him scouted to a tee…Take a look at what Bridgewater did vs. the blitz in college. Led the nation by a WIDE margin. That’s what rookie and 2nd year QBs face in the NFL. Plenty of blitz packages. Once Bridgewater sees that then tell me all the knocks against him. As for Ponder the jury is already in. He’s guilty of being an awful NFL starter!

        • Gary

          I totally disagree … We can all agree that Ponder has been alittle inconsistent, but he has showed he can play at a high level also. It’s still to early in his career to say he’s a bust.
          Remember the first year of his career their was no training camp,thats a must for a rookie , especially for a qb. The next year he led the league the first six games of the season, then the struggles, which is expected for a young player. He came out of it and played pretty good the rest of the way and thats pretty remarkable with Musgrave’s play calling. Then last year the first three games, Ponder played good and everybody blamed him for the team losing which clearly was way off base. That defense, especially Josh Robinson, was torched. Ponder moved his team up and down that field most of those games with ease. Yes there were some ints like the Detroit game, but one was off Simpson’s hands and the other was tipped. Again a very young qb, but everyone was saying he had three years now which pisses me off because clearly not even close to three years . Most fans don’t even no what there talking about. Now for Bridgewater , please the man hasn’t even thrown a pass in the nfl and your saying how great he is. College is way different pal, you need to get real, even Bridgewater said the speed alone is way different never mind all the different looks on defense.

          • Daniel Laxen

            A little inconsistent? That’s an understatement!…How many years does it take to get over not having a training camp? It’s safe to say that there’s more than enough game film to see Ponder’s strengths and weaknesses. The fact that he’s horrible throwing the deep ball seem not to matter to you. The ONLY reasons the Vikings made the playoffs 2 years ago was that AP had a 2000 yard season and the coaches knew they had to shrink the playbook because Ponder lacked the arm and ability to trust his 1st read. The same breath you take to criticize Musgrave you praise Ponder when nothing could be further from the truth. Did like the way Musgrave called a game? Hell no! but by doing what he did the Vikings somehow got to 10 wins. That with Ponder throwing for less than 100 yards on at least 3 occasions. Ponder moved the team with ease? What games were you watching? College is different. Tell that to Joe Montana. He had all the weaknesses Ponder had coming out of college. What he did was throw the ball accurately and trust his receivers would be where they were supposed to be. The Vikings receivers were where they were supposed to be, or did Jennings, like the coaches, forget how to run routes?…I just don’t see how ANYONE can sit there subjectively and judge that Ponder has been what he should have been when selected #12 overall 3 years ago…Wait, when a GM recognizes a bust they usually draft another QB in the 1st round. That’s eerily similar to what the Vikings did this year in the draft…Get off Ponder’s jock and realize that he is what he is…On his way out of Minnesota within 1 year!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Christian hit percy and Wright on 55 yard throws, how deep do you need to throw it? 75 yards? Montana had Jerry Rice every game. . Christian had Percy, when he didn’t have migraines or an Appendectomy or a rib injury, so basically he rarely had him. Really not a fair comparison. He was far more consistent in 2013. The defense sucked in the beginning of 2013. Joe Namath and John Elway both sucked their first couple years. Christian outperformed both of them. He is not a bust. He just isn’t a savior of a sinking ship. I think only Dan Marino can Qualify for that role.

          • Daniel Laxen

            An what do they all seem to have in common? The receiver has to wait on a floating balloon ball. To say Ponder can drive the ball on deep throws is ridiculous for you to even try to infer…

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Christian has hit Percy, Jarius, in stride. I would like to see more deep attempts with consistency like Montana and Rice had. Those “balloon passes” as you put it are hard to defend against if delivered with perfect timing. You can’t slap it down at the line of scrimmage, and the cb can’t get to it. Whether he can put those bomb passes in the WR’s hands with any regularity is another story.

  • Orion

    We have a new coaching staff and a new scheme. I’m convinced Ponder was never going to be much good under the old staff and scheme, but it would not shock me if he turned out to be pretty good with a different way of looking at the field and with different coaching.

    Ponder is athletic, smart, and hard-working. He could do something like Alex Smith did.

    That said, I expect Cassel to be the starter, Bridgewater to be the backup, and Ponder to be #3. I have hope for Ponder but not all that much of it.

    • Daniel Laxen

      Is that what you’d be satisfied with? A starter the quality of Alex Smith?…Not me! I want a 10 year guy that CAN lead the team to a Super Bowl…

      • Orion

        Perhaps a little misunderstanding here? I would have been far happier last season if either Ponder or Cassel had played at the level at which Alex Smith played. Both Ponder and Cassel sucked – and when people thought they had a good game it was really that they just didn’t suck as badly that day.

        At this point Bridgewater may (or may not) need some development and the conventional wisdom seem to be that Cassel will be our designated starter at the beginning of the season. This means (IMHO) that there is a large body of thought that we will begin our season with a QB (Cassel) who is barely mediocre.

        It is possible that with a different scheme, with different coaching, and with a little more experience Ponder will be better than mediocre – might even be moderately good. IF this is the case, then we could find Ponder being a decent starter while Bridgewater is brought along.

        I think Bridgewater will be a superb QB for the Vikings in the future. I do not know how far away that future might be – it could be that he is ready for the season opener or it could be that he is not quite ready until 2015. I’m betting that he will be our starter before the end of the 2014 season because despite my hopes for Ponder and Cassel, the probability that my hopes will come true are pretty low.

        OTOH, my hopes for Teddy Bridgewater are very high and I think the probability is quite high that they will be fulfilled. Seriously, I cannot think of any player in the last 10 drafts that I wanted as badly. If it had been between Clowney and Bridgewater – I’d have taken Bridgewater. If it had been Andrew Luck or Bridgewater – I’d have taken Bridgewater. It’s bad enough that I wonder if I’ve taken leave of my senses when it comes to Teddy. I actually can’t think of anyone whom I’d rather have on the Vikings roster, I think his potential is that sky-high.

        But that doesn’t mean that I don’t think it is possible that Ponder could be better than Cassel in the new scheme and with a different OC. It also doesn’t mean Ponder couldn’t end up being pretty good.

        Frankly, if I were Ponder I think I’d want to be the starter this season, but I’d dread it as well. If Ponder were the starter and threw an incomplete or an interception you can bet that there will immediately be chants of “Ted-dy, Ted-dy, Ted-dy” from the stands. Having Teddy warming the bench when folk like me think so highly of him is going to be uncomfortable for either Cassel or Ponder should they be the designated starter.

  • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

    OTA update June 11,”RAISING KAIN” Are you listening Paul Allen? Again Christian Ponder was the only QB on staff that did not get picked off. Both Cassel and Bridgewater were intercepted again today. Aside from that enter the 1 minute drill:
    Cassel looked sharp getting to field goal range before the one minute was up with a few passes, but not close enough to take a shot at a TD. Ponder went next and looked like a surgeon, with a sideline pass through a tight window to Kain Colter for a TD!!!! FLORIDA STATE!!! Next went Teddy Bridgewater who had been struggling most the day, especially with the blitz drills, getting touched for a would be sack, only completing 33% on Blitz downs. He did manage a series of dink passes to work his way to the edge of field goal range with one second left.

    So, all around a successful 1 minute drill for the Offense, but maybe not successful for our Secondary. Although it is nice to hear they did get a few INT’s on 11:11 play.

    So Mr. Allen again. Christian Ponder is the only QB to again not throw an Int. but despite only getting limited 2nd team reps was the only QB to hook up on a TD route (with the help of Kain Colter) . So, can’t say you haven’t heard anything good.

  • Nathan Koeberl

    I think Im the Only vikings fan who is actually rooting for Ponder. . :’( I still believe in him.

    • Gary

      nope ! I’m big Ponder fan also

  • robb

    Being a Viking fan for over 30 years and following all their media coverage, I have to go off topic and just say I feel Viking’s fans put up the most intelligent, knowledgeable posts at just about any site. SKOL Vikings !