Percy Harvin, Vontae Davis Tested Positive for Marijuana at Combine

A pair of guys who may be in the Vikings‘ sights come draft day tested positive for marijuana at the combine according to NFL Draft Bible.  One of the two players, WR Percy Harvin, is scheduled to visit the team when they host a throng of draft prospects next week, while the second, CB Vontae Davis, though not scheduled to visit, has been named as a possible target for the Vikes when they pick #22 overall (the third failed drug testee, B.J. Raji, is not on Minnesota’s radar).

I was actually starting to be sold on the idea of the Vikes drafting Harvin – assuming OT Eben Britton is no longer available when #22 rolls around – but this changes my mind a bit.  Not that I necessarily care about a guy smoking pot – in fact, I don’t care a lick about it; the NFL is full of guys who like the hippie lettuce, and the majority of them show up for work on Sunday and are solid team guys.  However, if you’re a young draft prospect like Harvin or Davis, and you know you’ve got this drug test coming up, and the whole idea now is to make a good impression on your potential future employers…call me silly, but wouldn’t you hope a guy in that position would be able to suck it up and lay off the weed?  At least long enough to be clean for the test?

This incident calls both players’ self-discipline and commitment into question.  That might not matter for a team like the Raiders or Cowboys, who only care about amassing talent, but it does matter to Zygi Wilf, Brad Childress and the Vikings, who have run guys like Dwight Smith out of town largely on the basis of off-field shenanigans.  Wouldn’t shock me to see the Vikes drop Harvin off their draft board entirely.

Topics: B.j. Raji, Brad Childress, Dwight Smith, Eben Britton, Minnesota Vikings, Percy Harvin, Rick Spielman, Vontae Davis, Zygi Wilf

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  • Mike

    Percy Harvin will now illicit visions of Ricky Williams.  The Vikings need a possession WR anyway, preferably a vet since WRs usually take 3 years out of the draft, especially when considering a young WR with a low Wonderlic from the very different FL offense.  Harvin didn’t belong on the Vikings draft board to begin with.

  • jeege

    I am so depressed today…I can’t even get excited about draft picks dropping like flies because of drug tests.

    The only team that Jay Cutler ever beat from the NFC North was our Vikings.

    We had better have one HELL OF A DRAFT…sigh

  • Mike

    Sidney Rice better have a breakout year, otherwise I don’t know what the Vikings can do.  Draftees will likely take years to develop.  The Star Tribune says the Vikings have no interest in Torry Holt because he has long played in a different system and may not be a good fit for Brad Childress’ West Coast offense.  

  • jeege

    I am seriously…just so depressed about this. This was the worst thing that could have possibly happened to the Vikes.

    1. We pussed out and didn’t do the deal…2.Our fucking rivals pounce at the opportunity the way WE should have…3.Now we have two great young quarterbacks to go up against every single season for the next decade.

    This trade could destroy the Vikes for years to come…

  • Chuck

    Watched Mike Mayock and Brian Billick, They said they would run up and pick Harvin… Not so much now…

  • papaspud

    To mike…no player fits in chilly’s west coast offense…except AD and that is because they can’t do anything else but run. And jeege I feel the same as you…we had a chance to go get a real QB, but instead we sit with our thumb up our a$$es, and the bears get him instead. And actually we could be going against 3 great QB’s for years to come if the Lions draft stafford…….but oh yeah we have T- slap…everything is going to be just fine…it makes me want to puke. This team shows no desire to improve itself, I am ready to just say hell with pro football. Maybe if all these people quit making so much money they would see things different. But then again I think the master plan is to get the Vik’s to LA anyway.

  • Chuck

    Jeege,
    I was bummed yesterday myself, And then land in our division, But Cutler beat us in 2007, Our defense has jelled and is better, ( Jared Allen) I think they will add a Vet QB before all is said done as a safety valve in case the other 2 don’t work out…
    Don’t think they are ready to hand over the Division yet…

  • Chuck

    But they Must address the needs , OT,CB,WR,QB, for starters, Whether Free Agency or the Draft….

  • jeege

    I agree Chuck. And nothing is settled until the season gets going anyway.

    But still, as papaspud says: it makes me want to puke.

  • Chuck

    Just take some Tums, A deep breath and hang in there Buddy!!! LOL

  • jeege

    sigh

  • All Day 28

    I know everyone is frustrated with the Cutler saga and him going to a division rival. But lets just relax and see it for what it really is. I knew we wouldnt go blow the wad on trying to obtain Cutler. That asking price was alot. Put it into perspective i bet Denver was asking for 2 first rounders from us, our third and i know it wouldnt have been one of our QB’s, im sure it was someone like Greenway. I do realize that for one Cutler is a huge upgrade at QB, but im glad we didnt give up that much for him. Now I did want Cutler to go to the Jets if we didnt get him for the possibility of them releasing Favre. Oh well, maybe we will add Jeff Garcia to compete. Anyway its a new season and lets see how the draft goes

  • Mike

    All Day, I more frustrated with Chilly’s attitude that Tarsage Rosenjack is the answer than losing out on Cutler.

  • papaspud

    I guess maybe we will be taking a couple of CB’s in the first 3 rounds…it looks like everybody in our division will have pretty decent passing games……..oh except us. Well we always do have that vaunted offensive scheme of Clueless’s….run, run, pass, punt. If you say it enough times, it almost has a good rhythm to it, almost. Can you say bombs away against the Viks???? Where are my Tums….LOL….

  • All Day 28

    Mike i feel ya on that, and im not defending Chilly on this cause i really cant stand him. But im sure he knew that we werent gonna give up a King’s ransom for Cutler so of course in the media he has too make it look like Tjack and Sage are great options and that they will be battling for the job, yada yada etc etc.

  • Mike

    I just googled Brad Childress in frustration.  I had no idea there were so many web sites that want him fired, including:
    http://www.firechilly.com/

  • Chuck

    Mike,
    Wow 2881 signed on the current Petition!!!
    lol.

  • http://Pennsylvania bernie jelinek

    All Day and Chuck are right, we’re all upset about the recent developments with Cutler, Harvin,etc,etc, but we still have time to make amends, and it may turn out to be a blessing for the Vikings. There are still players available out there that could fill the gaps and we still have A.P. and a good defense to boast about. One guy at work, a Steeler fan told me today that we would’nt want that big baby -Cutler anyways. He did say that he thinks the Vikes are a QB away from the Super Bowl, but thinks someone else will lead us to the ring.

  • [email protected]

    guys, think about this for a minute. the bears have now changed the entire offensive focus of their ball club now with bringing in cutler. they could run the ball fairly well, they could pass ok, and they play great D. now with cutler, they become a passing team, provided they get better in wrs? well that will put a strain on their D, because they will have to be on the field more to protect leads and will not have the luxury of a grind it out offense? now look at the vikes. WE  are a very similar built team. WE  have the #1 D against the run, one of the top 3 off-lines, and  the best RB in the game. so if WE  bring in cutler would WE  have to re-tool OUR  entire offensive philosophy as well? yes WE  would. who is going to be OUR  focus on offense? AP? you’d be a fool to say anything else. chicago has just made the focus cutler. the vikes have the focus of OUR  team now. AP and the #1 D! now you don’t come in and change that, you go find players and draft players to fit that system and compliment it and add depth to the strong lineup you already have, NOT???? well then given those facts of criteria what have the  WE  done so wrong that all of you are so upset at? WE  brought in a strong armed, very intelligent, young QB hungry to prove he’s a starter in the nfl. WE”VE  added him to the best D and the best running game in the league. did you really want to change those to strong points of your team????? no, you want to compliment the building process. sage was’nt brought in to councel jackson, he was brought here to take the job and “manage” this team to a superbowl. AP and that D will win it, not a QB………do you guys see what I”M saying? give it time, you maybe pleasantly surprised. they say CHILDRESS reads these blogs and does comment on them. well now you know for sure.

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    gentlemen, my uncle, the viking fan has now spoken for the  first time on this blog. that’s the way he feels as a viking fan, and i, not as a viking fan, but as a fan that studies and analizes the game, would have to agree with him and say that in all likelyhood he IS RIGHT.

  • Mike

    Dallas Dave’s uncle is B(ra)d Childress?  Sorry Brad, but even you said Sage Rosencopter is a young Gus Frerotte.  That means we are likely looking more of the same as last year – AP slamming into 8 and 9 man fronts.  The Vikings need a QB like Cutler but that doesn’t need to be the focus, like an old Jay Cutler, like Brett Favre.

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    if you have a qb like cutler, the focus will be on your passing game. if you have a back like AP your focus will be the run. the opposing Ds will stack 8-9 in the box till sage completes several passes down field to berrian, and crew, because they have single coverage. then the D backs into coverage schemes. then AP faces 6-7 man fronts. now i like the odds. sage can manage that scheme, because he’s not the focus, he’s the compliment. was aikman or smith or irvin the focus of the dallas attack? they all worked off each other. aikman’s stats were that of an average qb, but were very effective in winning because he never had more than one player facing doubles, and most likely saw a lot of one/one coverage. with his line he had time to pick it up. i see very similar situations for sage down the line as well. sage can read Ds, he’s got a head for the game. he’s big, he’s strong armed, and has a great line ahead of him. if i’m a bettin man, i’ll take those odds over re-tooling my whole offensive philosophy. and my D is going to be the winner of any championship runs the vikes make anyway. my uncle says the more he studies this ofensive stratagy, the more he feels comfortable with it.

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    and no, my uncle is not brad childress. he seems to think he should be though. hahaha. kinda cute, was’nt it? although, his statement is exactly what is on the mind of brad childress, that he says he’ll guantee. i too think he’s right. and most importantly i think brad childress is right. as twisted as that may sound to you all. as a head coach you have to have a master plan going into your tenure as a head coach based on the talent that you have on that squad. then you bring in talent that compliments the focus of your attack. unless your in a re-building stage, you don’t re-tool the whole thing. you tweek it. it’s obvilious that after getting forte last year, and cutler this year the bears are rebuilding. the vikes are in the process of cashing in on their rebuilding process, not starting over. i’ll actually look different at childress this year if he succeeds with rosenfels. maybe, just maybe, childress is’nt such an idiot after all?

  • Mike

    Dallas Dave.  Chilly says Sage is a young Frerotte.  Unlike Aikman, these journeymen don’t create the kind of fear that can force defenders out of the box to free a RB.  The Vikings cant afford to continue smashing a thoroughbred RB into 8 and 9 man fronts.  The superbowl winning 2000-1 Ravens did it with bruiser Jamaal Lewis and the 2002-3 Bucs did it with big smash mouth RBs Michael Pittman and Mike Alstott.  But the Vikings can’t force to waste and injure AP, especially since they don’t have a dominant D that can win by itself.

  • Mike

    I meant the Vikings can’t AFFORD to waste and injure AP.  I think that is why he is gaining 10 pounds but then we lose our real AP!

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    mike i agree. AP is in his prime. the D has got a small 2-3 year window. it’s got to be now. chilly knows it’s this year or never. rosenfels is a YOUNG journeyman and he has that over guys like ferrotte and garcia types. maybe at this point in his career he’s matured enough to take the next step and be the leader of the band instead of back-up guitar? he’s shown staedy growth all his carreer so far to indicate that he’s at that point. it just seems to be the perfect place to find out. you got the best rb in the game, and a top 3 D. if rosey is at the next level, he should climb to the top level of his game in this enviroment? rosey has the arm to back those backs out of the box, just ask andre johnson of the texans. that is why a rookie back like steve slaton had such success last year with them. the Ds had to respect rosey and his arm. berrian can give him his threat down field, and if those young kids can step up like kevin walter did in houston as well? sage can win in this offense if he can win in houston’s. that is a promise, mike. i hope you can see some of that potential in him, i’ve seen him play alot. he’s got the talent. he’s alot like tom brady, and whoever thought that brady would be anything? a sixth round pick that was a backup in college. well, we say now that brady is one of the best ever. or was it the system???? minny has a winning system and rosey could be the next brady in it.?

  • Chuck

    I don’t think Adrain would again too much weight, If he saw or the staff that he was losing speed or anything else that would hinder his performance, they would adjust his weight accordingly… I’m for that myself if it helps…

  • Chuck

    Sorry
    Adrian,  My spelling isn’t the best it should be…
    I’m looking forward to see who or if they put on that 4th QB though…

  • Mike

    The Vikings cannot afford to engage in wishful thinking that Rosencopter will become Brady or T-Joke will become McNabb.  The 4th QB must be a proven QB, hopefully in the West Coast Offense, like Cutler, McNabb, Hasselbeck, Gracia or my fav Favre.

  • Chuck

    Mike,
    Would like to see McNabb as a option,  If the Jets got a QB, draft or other, Favre would be a option, As it stands, Garcia is the most obtainable…

  • Chuck

    OH,
    And by the way, I don’t think you will see Sage pull that copter stunt again… lol

  • Mike

    The Vikings appear to favor McNabb, Favre and Garcia in that order, which is reverse order to the most likely to be available.  I thought Sage patented the copter as his signiture move.

  • Chuck

    Hey,
    As long as he doen’t get hurt and can hold on the the ball, It looks pretty Cool!!!

  • Mike

    The copter looks funny, but will benefit only the Vikings opponents that that scoop up the fumbled ball and run it back for a TD.  Sage also likes to throw interceptions (6TDs/10INTs).  Also very iritating

  • Mike

    Web site doesn’t want Rosenfels.  Calls him glorified third stringer.

    jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=166

  • Chuck

    Not a very good site, I would rate the web site  L, for Loser…

  • Chuck

    After reading that I like Sage even better…

  • Mike

    USA Today claims the Jets needed Cutler more than any other team, especially after Favre retired.  They expect the Jets to draft a QB, either Freeman or trade up for Stafford or Sanchez. The team is also considering Leftwich or Garcia.  If the Jets get any of these QBs they will release Favre if he comes out of retirement.

  • Chuck

    Mike,
    How about that, Looks like the Skins are interested in Brian too, The Pittsburgh Post Gazette reports that Leftwich is in town to discuss  a contract with the Skins…

  • Mike

    Jay Cutler makes the Bears the new favorite to win the NFC North, since he should be able to open up their passing attack, according to DemocratandChronicle.com.  They rated Cutler the 8th best QB, with the Rosenfels and Jackson tandem rated at the bottom of the entire NFL and having the least chance to surprise.  Way to go Chilly!

  • Mike

    The Vikings options at QB and another division title appear to be shrinking.  Garcia is expected to sign with the Raiders soon.  Leftwich may sign witht the Redskins now that Campbell is angry about the team pursuing Cutler.  Please come back Brett!

  • Chuck

    Mike,
    WOW !!! That’s Rochester’s paper !!! LOL, Bob Matthews must have wrote it, I’ll check my paper, Mike Mayock and Charles Davis say the Vikings are still the team to beat, I trust them over Bob, He doesn’t hit the nail on the head alot on the stuff he quotes, Alot of my friend get a kick out of it. He is right about being at the bottom as far as QB though… If they really haven’t made plan on getting a Vet QB yet they are Brainless!!! Garcia might be a short term but a Excellent back up in case Tarvaris and Sage  don’t work out, unless they have a guy that they Know they can get, I think it’s Dumb. How can you not listen to all guys that have QB knowledge on the TV, ESPN,NFL.com,Fox, Ect and not go out and get a Vet QB, It’s easy to understand why most of the fans want to get rid of him… 

  • Mike

    Chuck, the people I trust the most are those that put their money where the mouth is:

    Chicago Gets Hot in the Sportsbook  Jay Cutler was just traded to the Bears on Thursday and already the implications of the trade have been felt in the Sportsbook!  The Bears are now at +1800 to win the Super Bowl.  That makes them favorites over the Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Carolina Panthers and Arizona Cardinals!

  • Mike

    Here is some good advice for Chilly:

    Unconfirmed reports are coming in from various sources that Jeff Garcia and the Oakland Raiders are in “serious discussions”. 
    Signing Garcia would be a huge upgrade over Oakland’s current backup quarterbacks, Andrew Walter and Bruce Gradkowski. Along with being solid insurance in the event starting QB Jamarcus Russell were to go down with an injury, Garcia would provide invaluable experience and leadership skills to pass on to Oakland’s young gun.

  • Chuck

    It is so hard to really know with injuries and other things playing into it, Maybe Cutler will do the same thing he did as far as winning the last 3 games like last year, We can only hope… It’s 50/50 -If he adjusts to a New team and system fast he will lean towards winning, If not , It goes the other way, I don’t think he has as Good as WR’s or Offensive as he had before, I really think the Vikings Defense will be even better, Young ones jelling more plus E.J. will be back 100%  ( Maybe I’m a homer, lol )

  • Mike

    The Bears hurt themselves at WR, that they desperately needed, when they traded their first round draft choice for Cutler.  They may try for a WR in the second round, but that will likely be lower quality, maybe Louis Murphy of Florida (6′ 2″, 203 lbs 4.43).  But, like the Vikings, the Bears really need a vet possession WR.  I have heard they want Plaxico Burress.  Chilly would let Burress go the Bears just like he let Cutler go on character issues.  Building a team for character likely doesn’t make the best team. 

  • Mike

    Scout.com says Adrian Peterson ”has plenty of upside potential despite his extraordinary results to date. I shudder to think what he would be able to do if the Vikings were able to consistently mount a more balanced attack. During Peterson’s first two years in the league, the Vikings haven’t finished higher than 25th in the league in passing offense.”  But Chilly gets us the lowest rating QB tandem in the league.

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