Brett Favre Wavering?


It looks like Brett Favre is experiencing some doubt about whether he wants to play for the VikingsVia ESPN’s Ed Werder:

With Minnesota Vikings players scheduled to report to training camp in less than a week, Brett Favre remains anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team. That decision, according to sources, has become more difficult in recent days because of the efforts of Vikings players including Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen and Steve Hutchinson, all of whom have now begun calling and texting Favre in an attempt to convince him to become Minnesota’s starting quarterback.

“If it weren’t for the involvement of the Vikings players directly telling Brett they want him on their team, I think he might have already decided against playing again,” a source said.

A source said that Favre is beginning to feel a sense of obligation, not only to Vikings players but to a coaching staff that has been recruiting him since the moment the New York Jets released him in April. According to sources, Favre has been communicating regularly with Vikings head coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, who was Favre’s offensive coordinator in Green Bay for three seasons.

Here’s what I would say to Brett if he were sitting here in front of me:  “Yo Brett.  Can I borrow a few thousand bucks?  I swear I’ll pay you back dude.”  And after that I would say, “You know Brett, if your heart isn’t in it, you really shouldn’t do it.”  And I mean that.  If Favre isn’t 100% committed to playing as of right now, then he should just forget it.  Because training camp isn’t going to improve his outlook.

Of course, this could all just be part of a Favre ploy to get out of training camp.  We know how much he hates training camp.  It could be that the Vikings will just tell Favre he doesn’t have to show up, and suddenly his doubts will evaporate.  If Brett knows anything, it’s how to get what he wants.

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  • http://landryhat VIKEMAN

    I still want Him to play for us even though.

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    i hope this thing still works, vikeman just spilt a grainbelt on my keyboard……my wife’s gonna kick his ass……he’s mad sittin on the patio with his beer. sorry guys i won’t let him use it anymore.

  • Susan

    Hello, Mike, etc:  
    Post #18: Unfortunately, too many people would rather gripe about something or somebody than say something good. They also enjoy “piling on”. I’ve walked away from most of my Packer friends because when Brett still wanted to play for GB in August 2008, these ‘friends’ gave the ultimatum: “You are either a Packer fan or a Favre fan…you can’t be both.” I said, “Yes, I can, but if you’re forcing me to choose, I choose #4.”
    Post #26: Keep the faith, Dale…we’ll have our answer in five days!
    Post #29: I don’t think he was so much against training camp as he was against minicamp. The Packers actually DO have to stay in a dorm during training, but I don’t know if Brett still had to do this, after he became so successful and famous: 
     ( http://www.packers.com/history/fast_facts/training_camp_sites/  ).
    I think, by now, Brett knows how important it is to be there at the start of training camp, especially with a new team. 
    Post #31: If you didn’t already post this on the Hattiesburg website (“An ESPN radio commentator says if the Vikings can add Favre at QB to an otherwise solid team, there will be no NFL team that can beat them”), I’ll do it and mention your name.  Wow!
     
    I’ll just kind of lump the rest of the posts together and try to comment in one or two paragraphs.  I’ve followed Brett for 17 years and went through this retirement thing since Mike Sherman was head coach. It’s like Brett has to hibernate for a while first, go hunting and fishing, spend time with his family, etc., before he can think about his future in the NFL. For years, Packer administration would woo him and cajole him and beg him to come back; then the extended family would discuss it and take a vote. In February and March of 2008, still hurting from the 2007 season and getting few if any calls from Green Bay, he decided to retire (although he never filed any papers). Then they quickly offered him $25 million to stay retired, and he realized that he’d been “had” and so later decided to come back, but Ted Thompson proclaimed, through Mike McCarthy, “The train has already left the station.” Then came the Jets and a great 8-3 start, before the biceps tendon let loose and they finished a disappointing 9-7.

    Now, here we are with all the roadblocks gone, the surgery and rehab a success, and he’s free to join the team he wanted to play with last season, yet he hesitates. He’s not afraid of the media but doesn’t want it to become a media circus, but it’s not that or training camp, in my opinion. I think it’s like  the groom, second-guessing marriage as he stands at the altar. Brett has done everything he needed to do to get to this point, but his self doubts are driving him crazy. It’s like the old cartoons, with the angel at one ear and the devil at the other ear (“Yes you can” … “No you can’t” … Yes I will” … “No you won’t”). Although his body held up pretty darn well for all those years, it turned on him last year, and now he’s wondering if there’s another injury lurking around the corner. I think Brett was sacked 30 times with the Jets, and with the majority of them, he landed hard on his right shoulder. If that’s what he’s afraid of, I’ve read that the Vikings have a very good offensive line so, hopefully, they’ll give him the protection he needs. But here it is, almost at the 11th hour, going back and forth, probably making himself a little crazy. He wants to succeed and wants to get the Vikings a Lombardi Trophy, but he’s trying to convince himself he can last the whole season and playoff season. If his Dad was still alive, he’d say, “You’re going to do fine…now get off your dead *ss and go play some football.” Which reminds me, after Brett “retired” last year, it didn’t take long before he was making everyone crazy at home, and Deanna said, “Brett, you’re a football player and you need to play…now go tell the Packers you want to come back.”  I’m probably over-simplifying, but I think there will be the usual family vote this week: Brett, Deanna, their two girls, Brett’s Mom, brothers and sister, and maybe even his chocolate lab (kidding, of course). Deanna’s step-Dad died, too, not that long ago (as well as her brother), and Brett was VERY close to her step-Dad, so I think he’s missed having him to bounce ideas off of.  He misses Reggie (White), too, and Steve McNair (two weeks ago, he and Steve were throwing balls to the high school football team in Hattiesburg). The Favre family as a whole has suffered tremendous loss over recent years, not to mention Deanna’s cancer, so I think Brett doesn’t have the emotional reserve that he used to have, and I think he’s still grieving over McNair.

    So, after all my rambling, I think what I’m trying to say is that Brett deserves the time he’s asking for; he’s one of a few NFL veterans who has earned this luxury. He’s a play maker and a difference maker; there will be some bad plays, but the number of good or great plays will far outweigh the bad ones.  I think he’s going to spend some time alone this weekend, out in the woods, trying to clear his head; then maybe he’ll talk to his agent, Bus Cook, some close friends and football veterans and former coaches, and then take the family vote next week.  They’ve always voted in favor of him playing, so I’m keeping all my fingers and toes crossed that they’ll vote “Yes” again.  Come on, Brett…jump right in…the water’s warm. This could be your greatest year yet!

  • Mike

    Yes, another point is Brett Favre isn’t the only person that has trouble making decisions.  My parents told me my successful brother does also.

  • Mike

    Also when these people do finally decide they can usually commit 100%.

  • Mike

    Pat Kirwan, NFL.com answered a question from someone posing as Brett Favre from Mississippi asking him to “Please help me with my decision.”  Kirwan said “It’s a no-brainer, Brett! You can still play and the team that wants you has just what you’ve always needed: the best running back in football, a gigantic offensive line and a terrific defense. What are you waiting for? Lead the Vikings to the Super Bowl. Take a good look at your lawn that you love to cut so much, and tell me what the problem is with making this decision. Good luck, No. 4.“

     
    Pat from New York asked “I think everyone agrees that the Viking could certainly use Brett Favre, but do you think there comes a point where the Vikings say, “Hey, Brett, we need a decision now, we need to move on as a team.” ? This whole situation can’t be good for team chemistry.  Kirwan said “Pat, Favre is worth the wait. The players on the team would like him there, they have made it clear to him that they feel that way. He knows this offense inside and out. There will be no learning curve. He showed up with the Jets last year on Aug. 7, did not know the offense at all, threw less than 20 passes in preseason, and then got off to an 8-3 start before his injury. Yes, everyone would like him in now, but later is okay with me.  Chemistry in this situation is overrated. You have a good backup in Sage Rosenfels and a young player in Tarvaris Jackson that they do not want to give up on. The more reps they get before Favre’s arrival, the better prepared they will be.“

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    good point on sage and tjax. getting more reps certainly won’t hurt them in the long run. maybe even booty can get some time in. once farve comes in it’s all his. and he will. no doubt he will.

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    nice look at it susan. from a woman’s stand point and from deanna’s and the family. we forget these guys are men, not machines. when the body slows and can’t produce like it used to it’s hard for us guys to work with it. i’m 47 and my aches and pains and healing time have dramically slowed over the last 5 years. i’m in great shape. i walk 4 mile treks twice a day. i have a very active job and i enjoy yard work and home improvement activities that have produced a very active lifestyle. but the body has other ideas. farve is apparently there. his mind says i’m 30.his body says i’m 40, fell like i’m 50 after the beating i take every year. this plays on the mind as well. the decision now lies with how did i feel after i wokeup from that last work out? that will eventually decide it all. brett has pride. he’s a man’s man. he wants to play and he will. he wants to go out on his terms, not have it called. he’s got it now and he”ll decide this is what i’ve waited for. it’s gold. look out when he does. as mike said, those kind usually succeed very well.

  • Susan

    Thanks, guys!  Mike, I took the liberty of copying your comment in #56 (from Pat Kirwan) and pasted it in a Comment in the Hattiesburg American under the article, “Favre still contemplating return to pro football”.  I HOPE that someone in the Favre family or one of the Favre organizations is reading all the Comments and printing them out for Brett.  It’s hard for us to understand, but it really is a big decision for him, so he needs all the positive reinforcement we can give him!  It will be a loooong week, waiting for (hopefully) good news!!!!

  • Mike

    Thanks Susan for your efforts.

  • Mike

    StP Pioneer Press sports writer Charley Walters is guessing Favre wants more guaranteed money before he will sign.  I had heard they already had a deal in place?

  • Mike

    Susan there is another article for you to work on:

    http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20090726/SPORTS/907260325

  • Mike

    Mike Florio doesn’t think Favre is conflicted at all, and believes Favre intentionally wanted everyone to know via the ESPN report that Vikings players such as Adrian Peterson have encouraged Favre to join the Vikings.  “He’s looking to knock down the appearance that he’s barging in on a team that doesn’t want or need him by putting out the word that key players who wear purple are pleading with him to play. And he wants to be sure that everyone realizes in advance that, if he stinks, the excuse is/will be that his arm still isn’t right.”

  • Jim

    Well today is Sunday….and we all know what happens on Sundays.

  • Mike

    Will Favre need much time to synchronize with his receivers?  I got worried when I saw Grumpy Old Fran led the Vikings to only a 7-7 record in his first year back from the Giants.  But then I noticed they didn’t get Chuck Foreman until the next year.  Having AD will be huge for Favre.

  • Mike

    Sorry Jim, but I don’t know what happens on Sundays in particular.  Please tell us or me.

  • All Day 28

    It’s sunday which means nothing. We all know nothing in when he will make up his mind, or when the media will leak something out. Jim seems to think that something will leak out today, im guessing because of it being sunday since media coverage will be low key and everyone not expecting anything today. All my fellow Favre followers, Mike, Jim, Bernie, Susan, even the one’s that know we need him Vikeman, DallasDave closet, and anyone who i forgot to recognize. Deep down im sure he is comming back. I dont think its for more money. I honestly think its the Media and all that they have been stirring up over the past months. Training camp, Yes he needs to be there, and im sure he know’s this. This is too great of a chance to guide a team to a Superbowl with all the piece’s in place for a chance. Training camp is crucial this year to get timing down with WR’s/TE’s. Hand offs down with the RB’s and go and win the team over. Go in there and make everyone in the lockeroom at easy, be the clown that he is and saddle up and become a great team leader and get these guys the ones like greenway and edwards to believe in you. So imma predict that his verdict to the public will be tuesday or wensday, im leaning more towards wens

  • Mike

    Yes All Day, like Bus Cook says Favre will tell us the middle or early part of next week if not sooner.  I think that pretty much covers all possible days between now and training camp.

  • Mike

    One thing I like about Mike Florio’s theory was I thought Favre acted strange when he said he might  have already decided against returning if not for the calls from Vikings players. ESPN’s  grumpy old Mark Schleric said the only the Vikings superstars want Favre and not the fill-in players.  It wouldn’t surprise me if Favre needed support from the players.

  • Mike

    Edwards and Greenway have been real poops.  I wonder if they even care about winning the super bowl?

  • All Day 28

    Edwards is a 24 year  old child, who is having to pop off to get some pub time because he never will when you got the williams wall and JA69 inc on the front line. So he has to do something different to get some tv time, get alil spotlight on himself for his amazing 4 year career so far in which he has gotten 13 total sacks. He did have 5 last year. Im sure atleast 5 of those were to the fact that the Oline didnt care about him and left him unblocked

  • Mike

    But what is Greenway been smoking:

    “So we have Sage and Tarvaris, who are in there as great quarterbacks, great experienced quarterbacks who we are going to be behind. … ”

    Great experienced QBs????

  • Mike

    Hey Greenie, are you going to vote for Sage and Tarvaris for the Hall of Fame???

  • Mike

    I would like to hear Greenie’s definition of a great QB:  No super bowls, no playoff wins, no pro bowls, no seasons with even 20 or was it 10 TDs, the same number of TDs as INTs, not even 2000 yards passing, can’t read Ds, can’t handle the blitz, can’t hit an open receiver in stride, not even rated in the top 25 best QBs in the NFL,……..

  • Jim

    Yeah never been a big Greenway fan, he seems like a whiney little bitch.

    Mike, since its Sunday I think we’ll be graced with another Favre rumor this evening.  I can’t remember the last Sunday where we didn’t have Favre rumors come out.

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    yeah, greenway is a punkass from iowa. don’t care for him and never will. he’s used to coming in second just like the iowa hawkeyes always do. i follow iowa state, where good football is played. your’re right greenway would’nt know championship football if it bit him in the ass…….go clones

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    oh and by the way all day 28, something i’ve never mentioned on here before. a bomb shell. as i told you guys when i was young 6 or seven, my dad told me to follow the cowboys because of roger and forget about the vikes/pack because of my 2 dimwitted uncles fighting over them. did’nt want me involved with that. well vikeman started working on my son at the tender age of 7 and won him over to the vikings. i always said my kid was a cowboy fan. i bought him all the cowboy gear when he was little, but when he went teens, he went viking. damn that vikeman. he hangs with vikeman all the time now. works with him, idolizes him, and practically lives with him on the weekends. vikeman and his wife now have the son they never had. (all girls, vikeman hates that). this is the vikeman revenge. my son the viking fan. damn you vikeman. so i’m not a closet fan, i’ve just got the closet real full around here in N.Iowa.

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    by the way, my kid hates farve just like vikeman, but knows he’ll play, because he says farve is an arrogant sob and needs to piss pound greenbay into the ground before he leaves. this has my other uncle, packer pete in an uproar towards vikeman and the kid. wow what a family divided. all because of farve. now do you guys realize why i comment so much on farve? i just tellthese guys to leave me the hell out of it, i got enough worries with my cowboys.

  • All Day 28

    We gotta fuck with ya Dallasdave, your on here more than some of the regulars and your a cowboys fan. So you know your gonna get reemed at some point or another. Yes you are a family divided. But here is my family. Father is a closet cowboys fan, mother is a Oakland fan, brother is a Colts fan, aunt is a Packers fan. So talk about a divided house and alot of shit talking during Thanksgiving and Xmas, Oh ya and we all live in Texas. I do root for the Texans as my second team, but The Vikings will be and always be # 1 no matter what. And as far as your cowboys, sorry cant stand them, never will root for that franchise unless its to help the Vikings out in some way

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    well ther ya go……we are still football brothers then. we share family pain and embarassment. i love that vikeman uncle of mine. he’s like an older brother. my dad kicked his ass all the time when they were kids. pete was a book worm and stayed clear of the 2. i keep in close contact with both of them, but we stay out of wisconsin as much as possible. i am contemplating of relocating to minnesota or wisconsin next year for work. so the family should go thru more turmoil for sure. it’s great that football can bring us all together like this.

  • http://Pennsylvania bernie jelinek

    All day 28, I think you’re right in that Favre will make his decision within the next few days, i just can’t see him waiting much longer, and keeping all of us hopeful Vikings fans hanging by a thread. I’m sure he realizes that fans are anxious for his final verdict, and i believe he’ll sign shortly. Even the local paper here in Pennsylvania has shown photos of Favre throwing passses to high school receivers in Mississippi, and most of the local writers are leaning towards him signing soon. Let’s all hope he signs soon, and puts all the negative rumors to rest.

  • http://landryhat davedallasfan

    bernie, they are reporting about farve everywhere, except wisconsin. hahahaa my uncle pete, packer pete, lives in wisc. big packer fan, says they have a ban on all farve news. they just don’t want to know and don’t care. pete says he can’t wait till the pack plays the vikes. he says it’ll be good medicine when rodgers and the pack out score minny and sweep them both games. imagine what vikemans response was to that???? whewww…… well vikeman thinks about next friday it’ll be a done deal?

  • Mike

    My family is 100% Vikings fans!  Traitors are not welcome in the family.  Actually, we wouldn’t get free tickets if we weren’t.  Some of my brothers’ little kids are not Vikings fans but that is probably because we don’t let them go to the games.  Bribery works!

  • Mike

    Now Sunday evening and all still quiet on the watch for Brett Favre.  I am beginning to lose faith in Jim’s prophesy.  I predict Brett will sign after Chad “f***ing” Greenway is forced by Chilly to call Brett and apologize for being such a party pooper.

  • Jim

    Mike, the night is still young!

  • Mike

    Jim, you responded to my post in 3 minutes!!!  You must really have this site monitored???

  • Jim

    coincidence actually.  Kept the window open from earlier and hit refresh and there you were!

  • http://Pennsylvania bernie jelinek

    Dave, I can believe that about Wisconsin not reporting Favre news, because one friend of mine is a hardcore Cheesehead, and after all these years of braggin’ about how great Brett was, suddenly he pulled the New York Jets deal, now my friend hates everything about the man. My oldest brother Bob is a Vikings fan like myself, but he’s not crazy about Favre either. I still have’nt convinced him about the importance of Favre signing with the Vikes. He kind’ve reminds me of your uncle=Vikeman, he dislikes Favre, but yet with Super Bowl thoughts running through their heads, have them saying it could be our only chance, regardless of Favre’s arrogance or the division rival QB that always seemed to work those magical comebacks for the Pack against us. If Favre signs, and we win our first 6 of 7 games, i think you’re gonna see more fans putting their past animosities aside, but if for some crazy reason he does’nt sign, you’re gonna see a lot of bitter Vikings fans, including myself.

  • All Day 28

    People ( Vikings fans that are against bringing Favre in ), need to realize the importance of getting him is not just to try and get to the Superbowl and win it. It’s also the national and media attention on OUR team. The televised games, the sold out games, the revenue that Favre will bring to Minnesota will greatly help in getting a new Stadium that way we can get that damn moving the team to LA monkey off our backs. It goes beyond the hate for him, it helps renew the team and bring in money and attention that we desperatly need for the future of this organization. Yes yes i know having to hate him and root against him leave’s a bitter taste in our mouth’es, But if he is able to bring us a Ring finally, or keep the team where it belongs, thats all that matters

  • Mike

    AD is most important here.  I can’t watch another year of the greatest running back ever being smashed into 8 and 9 in the box because the Vikings QB can’t make them pay for doing it.  A Vikings QB should be able to get 300 maybe 400 yards per game when Ds load the box.  I also think Vikings WRs are very underrated because of the lack of a QB – Berrian, Sidney Rice and now Harvin.

  • Jim

    I’m man enough to admit that I was wrong. 

  • Mike

    ESPN’s Rachel Nichols says still no word from Favre, but she expects to talk to his agent Bus Cook on Monday afternoon.

  • Susan

    I doubt that any of you folks will read this, given your disappointment that Brett didn’t sign with the Vikings.  I’m disappointed, too.  I wanted very much to see him play another year and do well, get another Super Bowl ring and shove it in Ted Thompson’s face.  I had no idea Brett was having a problem with his left knee (I do remember one knee injury he had at Lambeau Field…he thought his career was over and covered his head with a towel as the cart took him to the lockerroom).  The ankle thing totally caught me off guard…”feels like I’m walking on glass.”  I know he’s had one minor surgical procedure on each ankle in the past to take out bone chips, but he never complained afterwards.  I guess he finally had to admit that his body IS turning against him and paying him back for all the physical abuse since he was in grade school.  Still, I have to wonder, after he’s had a chance to let things cool down (his knee and ankles, I mean), if he gets a call from Childress that their QB is down and they need him, what would he say?  By November, I’d be afraid he’d lost his edge, stopped working out as much, etc., and wouldn’t be able to help the team the way he could have in September.  But it doesn’t pay to speculate; last I heard, they went on vacation the very night he announced his decision, and I doubt there’ll be many reporters (if any) hanging around Hattiesburg when they get back.  Again, guys, I’m so sorry for everyone that things didn’t work out.  I thought I knew Brett pretty darn well after all these years, but he totally shocked me this time. I had to wait a week before I was even able to write about it, I was so bummed out.  Anyways, I wish much luck to your Vikings … it sure would’ve been fun with #4 in the fold!