Brett Favre Wavering?
It looks like Brett Favre is experiencing some doubt about whether he wants to play for the Vikings. Via ESPN’s Ed Werder:
With Minnesota Vikings players scheduled to report to training camp in less than a week, Brett Favre remains anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team. That decision, according to sources, has become more difficult in recent days because of the efforts of Vikings players including Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen and Steve Hutchinson, all of whom have now begun calling and texting Favre in an attempt to convince him to become Minnesota’s starting quarterback.
“If it weren’t for the involvement of the Vikings players directly telling Brett they want him on their team, I think he might have already decided against playing again,” a source said.
A source said that Favre is beginning to feel a sense of obligation, not only to Vikings players but to a coaching staff that has been recruiting him since the moment the New York Jets released him in April. According to sources, Favre has been communicating regularly with Vikings head coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, who was Favre’s offensive coordinator in Green Bay for three seasons.
Here’s what I would say to Brett if he were sitting here in front of me: “Yo Brett. Can I borrow a few thousand bucks? I swear I’ll pay you back dude.” And after that I would say, “You know Brett, if your heart isn’t in it, you really shouldn’t do it.” And I mean that. If Favre isn’t 100% committed to playing as of right now, then he should just forget it. Because training camp isn’t going to improve his outlook.
Of course, this could all just be part of a Favre ploy to get out of training camp. We know how much he hates training camp. It could be that the Vikings will just tell Favre he doesn’t have to show up, and suddenly his doubts will evaporate. If Brett knows anything, it’s how to get what he wants.
Favre is being very confusing, because I refuse to believe he doesn’t want to go to training camp for two lousy weeks with his new and final team, even though that has been the word from the media. Maybe Favre wants to play for the Vikings, but will use the “obligation” to play for the Vikings now as an excuse to Packers fans???
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pmThomas George of NFL.com makes some good points about Brett Favre:
1. Favre has decided to play for the Vikings for some time and is in the process of waying why he should not do it more than why he should. He will keep coming back to the position that better to play than to give up this special chance in Minnesota and live the rest of his life wondering if he made a mistake.
2. It is a great move for all involved. Brett does not believe there is an arm in the league that can dial it like he still can. He knows the sum of his experience is vast. I think he would enter this season intent on making it his final one and each week, give him a final peace, a chance to smell it and take it all in while in the battles. The Vikings have little question about his talent and his arm. They love the idea that he could bring them so much football wisdom and confidence with a group of players looking for that to make a Super Bowl run.
3. If Favre can remain healthy for the season, the Vikings will be a beast. They have every other facet of the game essential to make a deep Super Bowl run. The primary question would be does he hold up under the taxing nature of the long season? That is a big if and a question he nor the Vikings can answer. Really, though, for every NFL quarterback and team, that is always a nasty threat. Just ask Tom Brady.
4. Percy Harvin has to be just one of the reasons Favre is licking his fingers.
5. No one who makes decisions with the Vikings believes in Tarvaras Jackson. The Vikings say that “if the Tarvaris Project had worked out, we wouldn’t even be talking about Favre.”
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 pmED frickin Werder strikes again. BSPN just needs to fire this idiot.
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pmESPN reports that Favre seldom has experienced pain in his throwing shoulder and that his arm feels better than it did last season when he was with the Jets. However, Favre is concerned about being able to hold up for an entire 16-game season and the possible public backlash he would get if his body does break down.
So there you have it. Now we know the problem is those f**king Franophiles!!! Screw you Dunzinski!!! If people like Dunzinski would just shut up, Favre would already be with the Vikings. All that crap about he is done and should retire, just because he had an injury. Then the Franophiles have the audacity to blame Favre for wavering when they are the cause.
I’m so proud of those who have shown Favre unconditional support including Vikings players like AD and Hutch, etc. and fans like myself and most others on this web site. He can only do the best he can. There are no guarantees, especially in a game as injury prone as football. Look at Tom Brady last year. Sign Brett, we want you!!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pmMike thanks for the info. Just very surprised that a 1st ballot HOF’er could be swayed by a bunch of ignorant franophiles. I doubt this is a true story. This is Werder we’re talking about here.
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pmJim, I think this is an age discrimination problem. If he were 2 to 5 years younger, no one would care if he were injured. But if he gets injured after warnings from the Franophiles about his age, they, including Dunzinski, have claimed they will mock him with I told you sos. He doesn’t want them to be right. But I think part of the reason he will sign is to prove them wrong. Don’t you just hate nayesayers like the Dunz?
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pmYeah the Franophiles will mock him and claim they’re right not only if Favre gets hurt, but if the Vikings won’t win the super bowl they’ll say the same thing. And there is a very good chance of one of the two happening. And we knew this 4 months ago too. I just don’t buy it at all. No way he has the surgery, and all this mess to back out because of a simpleton like a Franophile. At the very least if Favre was going to back out he would lie and blame it on his shoulder not being up to par. BSPN with another BS story. July 30th or sooner we’ll get the news that we’ve been waiting for.
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:47 pmI am so sick of ESPN. They have been wrong every step of the way here. In fact, at multiple points all I had to do was read the article and insert the word “not” in front of every factual statement in order for the news to be accurate.
Brett Favre is “not” officially retired. Brett Favre will “not” not play for the Minnesota Vikings this year. Brett’s arm will “not” hurt him too much to play even if he does get the surgery.
Their NFL coverage this summer has been atrocious considering the quantity of things that have been happening, brought to even greater light with the debacle of reporting job on Rothlesberger’s rape charges. I mean, the guy just won the SUPER BOWL! How do you not cover that???
Just saying.
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:48 pmAntoine signed!!!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 pmWoohoo!
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pmIf you are right Jim, I would expect to hear from Favre tomorrow.
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:05 pmEveryone needs to just calm down, lets look at the source of this, ed werder and espn. Like Jim says he didnt go through all this not to play. Yes in the back of his head im sure he is hoping he can last. But hell sometimes even 20 year old’s cant last a entire season. You have no control on getting injured. So man up get the contract signed and come dawn you a purple jersey for a year or two. You think you got treated amazing in Greenbay, Bring us a Superbowl and you will be a god to Vikings fans
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:01 pmWhy would it have to be tomorrow? Didn’t Favre say he’d have an ansewr by the 30th?
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pmJim, this week Favre changed the July 30 deadline and said he would have an anwer by Friday. But the media including Dunz is now saying maybe not now that Ed Werder says Favre is wavering.
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 pmFavre never changed the deadline from what I can tell.
From what I understand is that Thomas George with NFL.com, reported that a source told him that Favre may have an announcement by Friday.
The only thing that I heard Favre say is that he will let him know by July 30th, so that’s the standard I’m using.
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 pmJim, you don’t believe Thomas George of NFL.com either? I never actually heard Favre say July 30 either.
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pmPro Football Weekly’s Hub Arkush says “Over the past four and a half months, Favre has spoken publicly on the subject twice that I can confirm, once when Trent Dilfer texted him in late May asking if he was coming back and Favre’s response was “No,” and on June 16 on “Joe Buck Live” when he told Buck he was considering it.
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 pmPro Football Weekly’s Hub Arkush says adds “what I will never understand is how Favre’s retirement or return generates such strong opinions among so many fans, and why so many are so negative.
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 pmA quick Yahoo! search reveals more than 5.76 million postings on the subject based on no actual facts or information.
Half are roasting the guy for the crime of changing his mind again and wanting to play football, as if he were some kind of publicity hound or egomaniac who can’t stand relinquishing the spotlight. In fact, the opposite is true; he seems to have done everything humanly possible to keep the subject private.
For Packers fans who are ticked at Favre, he did what he could to come back to you last year. If you’re angry for his refusal to quit, shame on you. What gives any of us the right to deny anyone the chance to follow his heart and do what he wants to do?
There is actually a potentially great story here. Favre may still be able to do it as well as anyone ever has. Shouldn’t we be hoping he does? Let the man go out and reclaim your respect, or fall on his face trying. But don’t deny him the right to try. Aren’t we the ones who are supposed to value never giving up, above all else?
He said before camp started he would let the Vikings know.
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 pmHey, if Tom Watson can come back at age 60, and nearly win a pro golf tournament, and Geoge Foreman can win the heavyweight boxing crown in his late forties, then why do all these naysayers have the right to question Favre’s age? Lance Armstrong is doing pretty darn good in his return from retirement in the Tour de France, which has boosted its audience two-fold, and not only that, people have been behind him 100%. So, why can’t these ESPN reporters welcome Favre’s return like Lance Armstrongs’, Tom Watsons’ or George Foremans’? Futhermore, i think we Viking fans have got to root for Brett’s signing like Mike, Jim,Jeeze,Chuck and even Vikeman have stated many times. I just can’t for the life of me, figure out why some reporters and even some Vikings fans continue to downplay the whole Favre deal and bash him at every turn. If some of you naysayers would only look at the big picture, that Favre brings us our only hope of not only winning in the playoffs, but also leading us to a possible SuperBowl win. Don’t let us down Brett, you’re not too old, hell i still compete and win powerlifting events at 48 ,beating these brutes half my age, experience and technique does matter, and that’s what Favre brings to this game. If Clint Eastwood can still make good movies (Gran Torino) and Sylvester Stallone can still fight, then Brett Favre can still throw a football( hopefully in a purple uniform). GO VIKINGS!!!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:47 pmHe obviously wants to play, he just doesn’t know if his body will hold up. No one can look into the future and see what will happen.
http://realfakesports.blogspot.com/2009/07/brett-favre-conflicted-i-d-bag-or-ass.html
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:53 pmWhat in the h*** is that (on real fake sports)?????????
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 pmNFL.com
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 pmAnd the Vikings are not thrilled that an ESPN report said the team’s players have repeatedly texted Favre, asking him to play. If true, that hurts the organization, they insist. What if he decides no, and those players must turn to quarterbacks they have “publicly thrown under the bus in that way,” a Vikings source said. The thinking is that management can do the Favre dance, but current players should not and cannot do such dallying that becomes public. If it happened, did those players reveal it? Did Favre? Either way, not good, both the Vikings and sources close to Favre say.
Well that just means Favre is obligated to play now.
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:36 pmHe’s playin damnit, He’s going to play. We all know it. He would not be working out like He is if He did not intend on coming back. We know that. He had the surgery. Why? To come back and play. His family is looking to live in this area for the season. Maybe He will wait to make the anouncement later, but it WILL come. I know it. So do all you guys.
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 pmI’m a huge Brett fan…i have followed him since he played for the falcons then go to green bay i will support him no matter what . you guys wouldn’t believe the shit i have to deal with day to day regarding him and his decesions from my co-workers to friends but still i will support and follow him no matter what but i must ammit this is getting old and i’m getting tired i really thought he would be with the viking this season but i’m begining to wonder is he or won’t he there are to many storties out there. following him for as long as i have i truly don’t beleive he would have had surgery & be working out like he is if he wasnt going to come back but now i truely don’t know i just hope he does w/ everything that has gone & he doesn’t back out now with everything he has done so far but even I don’t know now and i have followed this guys for 20 years. i’m really going to be disapointed if he ends up not playing this season after everything but i actually don’t think he will. I would like your guys opioion on this as well. sorry this is so long but i had to get this off my chest hope you guys understand..lol..i’m just ready for this to be over with!
July 24th, 2009 at 1:28 amI thought that, instead of this blog or others that Brett probably doesn’t have time to read, maybe he (or someone in the family) reads the comments online from his hometown paper. So, I used up all 1000 characters and begged him to play for the Vikings … feel free to jump in!
July 24th, 2009 at 3:08 amhttp://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200990723012
Thanks Susan, for your post to Brett Favre in Hattiesburg. I posted the following after you:
“By a large margin, Vikings fans want Brett Favre at QB this year. I don’t know what the reticence is, but if it is over whether the arm will hold up, we know there are no guarantees (eg Tom Brady last year). Whatever he can give us would be appreciated.”
Your post seems to agree with me that the problem is the possible public backlash Favre would get if his body does break down. But Jim, Vikeman and others on this web site seem to disagree and think there is no doubt he will sign before training camp. I wish I knew for sure why he won’t just announce now.
July 24th, 2009 at 8:43 amDanzinski has someone who agrees with his suspicions. ESPN’s John Clayton says Favre is trying to avoid training camp and more specifically having to stay in a dorm. The Packers players were allowed to go home.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:14 amI made another post to Brett Favre in Hattiesburg:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:44 amESPN’s John Clayton says Favre is trying to avoid training camp and more specifically having to stay in a dorm (the Packers players were allowed to go home). I think it is important for Favre to be in camp to get his timing with the receivers, etc.
An ESPN radio commentator says if the Vikings can add Favre at QB to an otherwise solid team there will be no NFL team that can beat them.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:17 amODDS TO WIN THE 2009 NFL MVP
Peyton Manning
+400
Tom Brady
+400
Adrian Peterson
+800
Drew Brees
+800
Ben Roethlisberger
+1000
Tony Homo
+1000
Kurt Warner
+1000
Larry Fitzgerald
+1000
Philip Rivers
+1200
Randy Moss
+1200
LaDainian Tomlinson
+1200
Donovan McNabb
+1250
Matt Ryan
+1500
Eli Manning
+1500
Brett Favre
+1800
Terrell Owens
+1800
July 24th, 2009 at 11:33 amESPN’s Rachel Nichols seems to think Favre is delaying the decision to delay the time he will have to spend with the media.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:26 pmThats kind what ive been thinking all along, he doesnt wanna have to deal with the media. We should secretly ship the tight ends and Wr’s to Favre’s and let them work on their routes and timing, Go get some Berrian, Rice, Harvin, Shiancoe look alike’s and have them at training camp
July 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pmESPN’s Rachel Nichols reports Childress and Favre agree he needs to be at training camp, so it looks like that theory is wrong. She added that Bus Cook said “we can expect to hear something by at least the beginning or middle of next week or perhaps sooner.” Apparently, Favre has some things to think over. Perhaps, how to avoid the media???
July 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pmKFAN radio’s Paul Charchian brought up an interesting point on ESPN TV that may dispute the claims by Jim, Vikeman and others on this web site that think there is no doubt Favre will sign before training camp. Charchian claims the campaign by AD, Hutch and Jared to contact Favre in support was orchestrated by the Vikings front office. He said this indicates that they feel they need Favre and don’t think this is a done deal. Moreover, if it falls through the Vikings are in a bad position with the team’s other QBs. With all due respect to you other guys, Susan and I could have been right that the problem is the possible public backlash from Dunzinski and others that Favre would get if his body break downs. What else does he have to think about???
July 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pmThe news will leak out on Sunday…
July 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pmESPN NFL Live’s Trey Wingo, Chris Carter and Mark Schleric can’t understand why Brett Favre is backpedaling on his earlier claims that he would play if his shoulder is healthy, which it now is. Favre can claim he doesn’t know if his body will break down, but he has played 18 years without knowing that. This has become very confusing ever since he shoulder proved healthy.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:18 pmJay Glazer says Favre will not do well because he hasn’t had time to work with his WRs. But I disagree since he did well with the Jets until his arm injury. I also think Harvin will help alot because he can make big plays out of short passes.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:20 pmESPN’s Chris Mortenson said Brett Favre needs a push from someone like Deanna. Maybe he is like the movie character Rocky who was insecure until his trainer told him to just go do it.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:22 pmPlus he knows the West Coast like the back of his hand…
July 24th, 2009 at 6:30 pmMaybe Dallas Dave could use his influence with Deanna to put pressure on Brett???
July 24th, 2009 at 6:38 pmNFL.com’s Thomas George says
Favre is still recovering from the hits he took in New York. The mental ones. Despite Favre playing with an injured throwing arm, he absorbed brutal criticism. It was all his fault, he heard. Some of it stuck with him. Is pro football’s most noted gunslinger becoming gun-shy? Is he thinking, “What if we don’t win in Minnesota?” It is a part of his decision-making, more than we knew, as is the distasteful idea of uprooting and moving his family, once again, from Mississippi. He has completed surgery, worked hard to get his arm in shape, courted the Vikings, they have courted him and now here both are on a cliff. Leap? I think Favre believes he owes the Vikings something. I think he is juxtaposing that with what he owes his Packers fans. And a million thoughts and what-ifs for him in between. Really, he owes only himself.
July 24th, 2009 at 7:04 pmyou don’t want me to have any influence with deanna. cause i’ll tell you guys what, i’d tell her to come up here and leave the gunslinger at home if he can’t make up his mind. hell deanna already has her own place?
July 24th, 2009 at 9:38 pmafter vikeman got done with it. i’m the one that wrote that. vikeman’s uses my computor because his wife won’t let him use their’s. he does’nt know how and gets the damn thing locked up all the time. he says it ain’t from porn either……hahahahaha…….. vikeman is pissin blood right now cause he says i forgot to change the heading on my computor; “now those guys are going to think i got something kinky going on with farve’s woman.” i said no vikeman, i’m the only sick one here. apparently i’m the only one that thinks she’s hot.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:44 pmI thought it was Dallas Dave who liked Deanna?
July 24th, 2009 at 9:45 pmI wrote that while Dallas Dave was writing above.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:46 pmI hate Favre and His Woman.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:46 pmvikeman is not allowed to use my computor anymore. he changes the header name and then i got to go back and switch it. he’s done on here. he’s drunk too.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:49 pmJohn Elway (who also won super bowls in the west coast offense)told NFL.com he thinks Favre will have great year because he is healthy and the Vikings are good. listen to John, Brett.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:49 pmI still want Him to play for us even though.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:52 pmi hope this thing still works, vikeman just spilt a grainbelt on my keyboard……my wife’s gonna kick his ass……he’s mad sittin on the patio with his beer. sorry guys i won’t let him use it anymore.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:03 pmHello, Mike, etc:
Post #18: Unfortunately, too many people would rather gripe about something or somebody than say something good. They also enjoy “piling on”. I’ve walked away from most of my Packer friends because when Brett still wanted to play for GB in August 2008, these ‘friends’ gave the ultimatum: “You are either a Packer fan or a Favre fan…you can’t be both.” I said, “Yes, I can, but if you’re forcing me to choose, I choose #4.”
Post #26: Keep the faith, Dale…we’ll have our answer in five days!
Post #29: I don’t think he was so much against training camp as he was against minicamp. The Packers actually DO have to stay in a dorm during training, but I don’t know if Brett still had to do this, after he became so successful and famous:
( http://www.packers.com/history/fast_facts/training_camp_sites/ ).
I think, by now, Brett knows how important it is to be there at the start of training camp, especially with a new team.
Post #31: If you didn’t already post this on the Hattiesburg website (“An ESPN radio commentator says if the Vikings can add Favre at QB to an otherwise solid team, there will be no NFL team that can beat them”), I’ll do it and mention your name. Wow!
I’ll just kind of lump the rest of the posts together and try to comment in one or two paragraphs. I’ve followed Brett for 17 years and went through this retirement thing since Mike Sherman was head coach. It’s like Brett has to hibernate for a while first, go hunting and fishing, spend time with his family, etc., before he can think about his future in the NFL. For years, Packer administration would woo him and cajole him and beg him to come back; then the extended family would discuss it and take a vote. In February and March of 2008, still hurting from the 2007 season and getting few if any calls from Green Bay, he decided to retire (although he never filed any papers). Then they quickly offered him $25 million to stay retired, and he realized that he’d been “had” and so later decided to come back, but Ted Thompson proclaimed, through Mike McCarthy, “The train has already left the station.” Then came the Jets and a great 8-3 start, before the biceps tendon let loose and they finished a disappointing 9-7.
Now, here we are with all the roadblocks gone, the surgery and rehab a success, and he’s free to join the team he wanted to play with last season, yet he hesitates. He’s not afraid of the media but doesn’t want it to become a media circus, but it’s not that or training camp, in my opinion. I think it’s like the groom, second-guessing marriage as he stands at the altar. Brett has done everything he needed to do to get to this point, but his self doubts are driving him crazy. It’s like the old cartoons, with the angel at one ear and the devil at the other ear (“Yes you can” … “No you can’t” … Yes I will” … “No you won’t”). Although his body held up pretty darn well for all those years, it turned on him last year, and now he’s wondering if there’s another injury lurking around the corner. I think Brett was sacked 30 times with the Jets, and with the majority of them, he landed hard on his right shoulder. If that’s what he’s afraid of, I’ve read that the Vikings have a very good offensive line so, hopefully, they’ll give him the protection he needs. But here it is, almost at the 11th hour, going back and forth, probably making himself a little crazy. He wants to succeed and wants to get the Vikings a Lombardi Trophy, but he’s trying to convince himself he can last the whole season and playoff season. If his Dad was still alive, he’d say, “You’re going to do fine…now get off your dead *ss and go play some football.” Which reminds me, after Brett “retired” last year, it didn’t take long before he was making everyone crazy at home, and Deanna said, “Brett, you’re a football player and you need to play…now go tell the Packers you want to come back.” I’m probably over-simplifying, but I think there will be the usual family vote this week: Brett, Deanna, their two girls, Brett’s Mom, brothers and sister, and maybe even his chocolate lab (kidding, of course). Deanna’s step-Dad died, too, not that long ago (as well as her brother), and Brett was VERY close to her step-Dad, so I think he’s missed having him to bounce ideas off of. He misses Reggie (White), too, and Steve McNair (two weeks ago, he and Steve were throwing balls to the high school football team in Hattiesburg). The Favre family as a whole has suffered tremendous loss over recent years, not to mention Deanna’s cancer, so I think Brett doesn’t have the emotional reserve that he used to have, and I think he’s still grieving over McNair.
So, after all my rambling, I think what I’m trying to say is that Brett deserves the time he’s asking for; he’s one of a few NFL veterans who has earned this luxury. He’s a play maker and a difference maker; there will be some bad plays, but the number of good or great plays will far outweigh the bad ones. I think he’s going to spend some time alone this weekend, out in the woods, trying to clear his head; then maybe he’ll talk to his agent, Bus Cook, some close friends and football veterans and former coaches, and then take the family vote next week. They’ve always voted in favor of him playing, so I’m keeping all my fingers and toes crossed that they’ll vote “Yes” again. Come on, Brett…jump right in…the water’s warm. This could be your greatest year yet!
July 25th, 2009 at 1:50 amYes, another point is Brett Favre isn’t the only person that has trouble making decisions. My parents told me my successful brother does also.
July 25th, 2009 at 7:42 amAlso when these people do finally decide they can usually commit 100%.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:06 amPat Kirwan, NFL.com answered a question from someone posing as Brett Favre from Mississippi asking him to “Please help me with my decision.” Kirwan said “It’s a no-brainer, Brett! You can still play and the team that wants you has just what you’ve always needed: the best running back in football, a gigantic offensive line and a terrific defense. What are you waiting for? Lead the Vikings to the Super Bowl. Take a good look at your lawn that you love to cut so much, and tell me what the problem is with making this decision. Good luck, No. 4.“
July 25th, 2009 at 10:50 amPat from New York asked “I think everyone agrees that the Viking could certainly use Brett Favre, but do you think there comes a point where the Vikings say, “Hey, Brett, we need a decision now, we need to move on as a team.” ? This whole situation can’t be good for team chemistry. Kirwan said “Pat, Favre is worth the wait. The players on the team would like him there, they have made it clear to him that they feel that way. He knows this offense inside and out. There will be no learning curve. He showed up with the Jets last year on Aug. 7, did not know the offense at all, threw less than 20 passes in preseason, and then got off to an 8-3 start before his injury. Yes, everyone would like him in now, but later is okay with me. Chemistry in this situation is overrated. You have a good backup in Sage Rosenfels and a young player in Tarvaris Jackson that they do not want to give up on. The more reps they get before Favre’s arrival, the better prepared they will be.“
good point on sage and tjax. getting more reps certainly won’t hurt them in the long run. maybe even booty can get some time in. once farve comes in it’s all his. and he will. no doubt he will.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:15 pmnice look at it susan. from a woman’s stand point and from deanna’s and the family. we forget these guys are men, not machines. when the body slows and can’t produce like it used to it’s hard for us guys to work with it. i’m 47 and my aches and pains and healing time have dramically slowed over the last 5 years. i’m in great shape. i walk 4 mile treks twice a day. i have a very active job and i enjoy yard work and home improvement activities that have produced a very active lifestyle. but the body has other ideas. farve is apparently there. his mind says i’m 30.his body says i’m 40, fell like i’m 50 after the beating i take every year. this plays on the mind as well. the decision now lies with how did i feel after i wokeup from that last work out? that will eventually decide it all. brett has pride. he’s a man’s man. he wants to play and he will. he wants to go out on his terms, not have it called. he’s got it now and he”ll decide this is what i’ve waited for. it’s gold. look out when he does. as mike said, those kind usually succeed very well.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:24 pmThanks, guys! Mike, I took the liberty of copying your comment in #56 (from Pat Kirwan) and pasted it in a Comment in the Hattiesburg American under the article, “Favre still contemplating return to pro football”. I HOPE that someone in the Favre family or one of the Favre organizations is reading all the Comments and printing them out for Brett. It’s hard for us to understand, but it really is a big decision for him, so he needs all the positive reinforcement we can give him! It will be a loooong week, waiting for (hopefully) good news!!!!
July 26th, 2009 at 1:51 amThanks Susan for your efforts.
July 26th, 2009 at 9:07 amStP Pioneer Press sports writer Charley Walters is guessing Favre wants more guaranteed money before he will sign. I had heard they already had a deal in place?
July 26th, 2009 at 9:24 amSusan there is another article for you to work on:
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20090726/SPORTS/907260325
July 26th, 2009 at 9:30 amMike Florio doesn’t think Favre is conflicted at all, and believes Favre intentionally wanted everyone to know via the ESPN report that Vikings players such as Adrian Peterson have encouraged Favre to join the Vikings. “He’s looking to knock down the appearance that he’s barging in on a team that doesn’t want or need him by putting out the word that key players who wear purple are pleading with him to play. And he wants to be sure that everyone realizes in advance that, if he stinks, the excuse is/will be that his arm still isn’t right.”
July 26th, 2009 at 9:35 amWell today is Sunday….and we all know what happens on Sundays.
July 26th, 2009 at 10:52 amWill Favre need much time to synchronize with his receivers? I got worried when I saw Grumpy Old Fran led the Vikings to only a 7-7 record in his first year back from the Giants. But then I noticed they didn’t get Chuck Foreman until the next year. Having AD will be huge for Favre.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:14 amSorry Jim, but I don’t know what happens on Sundays in particular. Please tell us or me.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:17 amIt’s sunday which means nothing. We all know nothing in when he will make up his mind, or when the media will leak something out. Jim seems to think that something will leak out today, im guessing because of it being sunday since media coverage will be low key and everyone not expecting anything today. All my fellow Favre followers, Mike, Jim, Bernie, Susan, even the one’s that know we need him Vikeman, DallasDave closet, and anyone who i forgot to recognize. Deep down im sure he is comming back. I dont think its for more money. I honestly think its the Media and all that they have been stirring up over the past months. Training camp, Yes he needs to be there, and im sure he know’s this. This is too great of a chance to guide a team to a Superbowl with all the piece’s in place for a chance. Training camp is crucial this year to get timing down with WR’s/TE’s. Hand offs down with the RB’s and go and win the team over. Go in there and make everyone in the lockeroom at easy, be the clown that he is and saddle up and become a great team leader and get these guys the ones like greenway and edwards to believe in you. So imma predict that his verdict to the public will be tuesday or wensday, im leaning more towards wens
July 26th, 2009 at 11:31 amYes All Day, like Bus Cook says Favre will tell us the middle or early part of next week if not sooner. I think that pretty much covers all possible days between now and training camp.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:42 amOne thing I like about Mike Florio’s theory was I thought Favre acted strange when he said he might have already decided against returning if not for the calls from Vikings players. ESPN’s grumpy old Mark Schleric said the only the Vikings superstars want Favre and not the fill-in players. It wouldn’t surprise me if Favre needed support from the players.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:48 amEdwards and Greenway have been real poops. I wonder if they even care about winning the super bowl?
July 26th, 2009 at 12:09 pmEdwards is a 24 year old child, who is having to pop off to get some pub time because he never will when you got the williams wall and JA69 inc on the front line. So he has to do something different to get some tv time, get alil spotlight on himself for his amazing 4 year career so far in which he has gotten 13 total sacks. He did have 5 last year. Im sure atleast 5 of those were to the fact that the Oline didnt care about him and left him unblocked
July 26th, 2009 at 12:13 pmBut what is Greenway been smoking:
“So we have Sage and Tarvaris, who are in there as great quarterbacks, great experienced quarterbacks who we are going to be behind. … ”
Great experienced QBs????
July 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pmHey Greenie, are you going to vote for Sage and Tarvaris for the Hall of Fame???
July 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pmI would like to hear Greenie’s definition of a great QB: No super bowls, no playoff wins, no pro bowls, no seasons with even 20 or was it 10 TDs, the same number of TDs as INTs, not even 2000 yards passing, can’t read Ds, can’t handle the blitz, can’t hit an open receiver in stride, not even rated in the top 25 best QBs in the NFL,……..
July 26th, 2009 at 12:26 pmYeah never been a big Greenway fan, he seems like a whiney little bitch.
Mike, since its Sunday I think we’ll be graced with another Favre rumor this evening. I can’t remember the last Sunday where we didn’t have Favre rumors come out.
July 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pmyeah, greenway is a punkass from iowa. don’t care for him and never will. he’s used to coming in second just like the iowa hawkeyes always do. i follow iowa state, where good football is played. your’re right greenway would’nt know championship football if it bit him in the ass…….go clones
July 26th, 2009 at 1:37 pmoh and by the way all day 28, something i’ve never mentioned on here before. a bomb shell. as i told you guys when i was young 6 or seven, my dad told me to follow the cowboys because of roger and forget about the vikes/pack because of my 2 dimwitted uncles fighting over them. did’nt want me involved with that. well vikeman started working on my son at the tender age of 7 and won him over to the vikings. i always said my kid was a cowboy fan. i bought him all the cowboy gear when he was little, but when he went teens, he went viking. damn that vikeman. he hangs with vikeman all the time now. works with him, idolizes him, and practically lives with him on the weekends. vikeman and his wife now have the son they never had. (all girls, vikeman hates that). this is the vikeman revenge. my son the viking fan. damn you vikeman. so i’m not a closet fan, i’ve just got the closet real full around here in N.Iowa.
July 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pmby the way, my kid hates farve just like vikeman, but knows he’ll play, because he says farve is an arrogant sob and needs to piss pound greenbay into the ground before he leaves. this has my other uncle, packer pete in an uproar towards vikeman and the kid. wow what a family divided. all because of farve. now do you guys realize why i comment so much on farve? i just tellthese guys to leave me the hell out of it, i got enough worries with my cowboys.
July 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pmWe gotta fuck with ya Dallasdave, your on here more than some of the regulars and your a cowboys fan. So you know your gonna get reemed at some point or another. Yes you are a family divided. But here is my family. Father is a closet cowboys fan, mother is a Oakland fan, brother is a Colts fan, aunt is a Packers fan. So talk about a divided house and alot of shit talking during Thanksgiving and Xmas, Oh ya and we all live in Texas. I do root for the Texans as my second team, but The Vikings will be and always be # 1 no matter what. And as far as your cowboys, sorry cant stand them, never will root for that franchise unless its to help the Vikings out in some way
July 26th, 2009 at 2:22 pmwell ther ya go……we are still football brothers then. we share family pain and embarassment. i love that vikeman uncle of mine. he’s like an older brother. my dad kicked his ass all the time when they were kids. pete was a book worm and stayed clear of the 2. i keep in close contact with both of them, but we stay out of wisconsin as much as possible. i am contemplating of relocating to minnesota or wisconsin next year for work. so the family should go thru more turmoil for sure. it’s great that football can bring us all together like this.
July 26th, 2009 at 2:34 pmAll day 28, I think you’re right in that Favre will make his decision within the next few days, i just can’t see him waiting much longer, and keeping all of us hopeful Vikings fans hanging by a thread. I’m sure he realizes that fans are anxious for his final verdict, and i believe he’ll sign shortly. Even the local paper here in Pennsylvania has shown photos of Favre throwing passses to high school receivers in Mississippi, and most of the local writers are leaning towards him signing soon. Let’s all hope he signs soon, and puts all the negative rumors to rest.
July 26th, 2009 at 2:37 pmbernie, they are reporting about farve everywhere, except wisconsin. hahahaa my uncle pete, packer pete, lives in wisc. big packer fan, says they have a ban on all farve news. they just don’t want to know and don’t care. pete says he can’t wait till the pack plays the vikes. he says it’ll be good medicine when rodgers and the pack out score minny and sweep them both games. imagine what vikemans response was to that???? whewww…… well vikeman thinks about next friday it’ll be a done deal?
July 26th, 2009 at 3:57 pmMy family is 100% Vikings fans! Traitors are not welcome in the family. Actually, we wouldn’t get free tickets if we weren’t. Some of my brothers’ little kids are not Vikings fans but that is probably because we don’t let them go to the games. Bribery works!
July 26th, 2009 at 7:02 pmNow Sunday evening and all still quiet on the watch for Brett Favre. I am beginning to lose faith in Jim’s prophesy. I predict Brett will sign after Chad “f***ing” Greenway is forced by Chilly to call Brett and apologize for being such a party pooper.
July 26th, 2009 at 7:12 pmMike, the night is still young!
July 26th, 2009 at 7:15 pmJim, you responded to my post in 3 minutes!!! You must really have this site monitored???
July 26th, 2009 at 7:19 pmcoincidence actually. Kept the window open from earlier and hit refresh and there you were!
July 26th, 2009 at 7:25 pmDave, I can believe that about Wisconsin not reporting Favre news, because one friend of mine is a hardcore Cheesehead, and after all these years of braggin’ about how great Brett was, suddenly he pulled the New York Jets deal, now my friend hates everything about the man. My oldest brother Bob is a Vikings fan like myself, but he’s not crazy about Favre either. I still have’nt convinced him about the importance of Favre signing with the Vikes. He kind’ve reminds me of your uncle=Vikeman, he dislikes Favre, but yet with Super Bowl thoughts running through their heads, have them saying it could be our only chance, regardless of Favre’s arrogance or the division rival QB that always seemed to work those magical comebacks for the Pack against us. If Favre signs, and we win our first 6 of 7 games, i think you’re gonna see more fans putting their past animosities aside, but if for some crazy reason he does’nt sign, you’re gonna see a lot of bitter Vikings fans, including myself.
July 26th, 2009 at 8:34 pmPeople ( Vikings fans that are against bringing Favre in ), need to realize the importance of getting him is not just to try and get to the Superbowl and win it. It’s also the national and media attention on OUR team. The televised games, the sold out games, the revenue that Favre will bring to Minnesota will greatly help in getting a new Stadium that way we can get that damn moving the team to LA monkey off our backs. It goes beyond the hate for him, it helps renew the team and bring in money and attention that we desperatly need for the future of this organization. Yes yes i know having to hate him and root against him leave’s a bitter taste in our mouth’es, But if he is able to bring us a Ring finally, or keep the team where it belongs, thats all that matters
July 26th, 2009 at 9:12 pmAD is most important here. I can’t watch another year of the greatest running back ever being smashed into 8 and 9 in the box because the Vikings QB can’t make them pay for doing it. A Vikings QB should be able to get 300 maybe 400 yards per game when Ds load the box. I also think Vikings WRs are very underrated because of the lack of a QB – Berrian, Sidney Rice and now Harvin.
July 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pmI’m man enough to admit that I was wrong.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:31 pmESPN’s Rachel Nichols says still no word from Favre, but she expects to talk to his agent Bus Cook on Monday afternoon.
July 27th, 2009 at 11:33 amI doubt that any of you folks will read this, given your disappointment that Brett didn’t sign with the Vikings. I’m disappointed, too. I wanted very much to see him play another year and do well, get another Super Bowl ring and shove it in Ted Thompson’s face. I had no idea Brett was having a problem with his left knee (I do remember one knee injury he had at Lambeau Field…he thought his career was over and covered his head with a towel as the cart took him to the lockerroom). The ankle thing totally caught me off guard…”feels like I’m walking on glass.” I know he’s had one minor surgical procedure on each ankle in the past to take out bone chips, but he never complained afterwards. I guess he finally had to admit that his body IS turning against him and paying him back for all the physical abuse since he was in grade school. Still, I have to wonder, after he’s had a chance to let things cool down (his knee and ankles, I mean), if he gets a call from Childress that their QB is down and they need him, what would he say? By November, I’d be afraid he’d lost his edge, stopped working out as much, etc., and wouldn’t be able to help the team the way he could have in September. But it doesn’t pay to speculate; last I heard, they went on vacation the very night he announced his decision, and I doubt there’ll be many reporters (if any) hanging around Hattiesburg when they get back. Again, guys, I’m so sorry for everyone that things didn’t work out. I thought I knew Brett pretty darn well after all these years, but he totally shocked me this time. I had to wait a week before I was even able to write about it, I was so bummed out. Anyways, I wish much luck to your Vikings … it sure would’ve been fun with #4 in the fold!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm