Dec 29, 2013; Minneapolis, MN, USA; Minnesota Vikings quarterback Matt Cassel (16) passes against the Detroit Lions in the third quarter at Mall of America Field at H.H.H. Metrodome. The Vikings win 14-13. Mandatory Credit: Bruce Kluckhohn-USA TODAY Sports

Matt Cassel Named 2nd Worst Starting QB In The NFL


Lately, there hasn’t been a lot of love for Vikings quarterback Matt Cassel.  Despite not having an absolutely terrible year last year, many fans and experts seem to feel that Cassel has no place even competing for a starting job in the NFL.

Wall Street Cheat Sheet is one of those sites that is highly skeptical of Matt Cassel’s ability to lead the Vikings this year.  Matt Reevy wrote a piece titled “The 7 Worst Quarterbacks Set To Start In 2014” where he had these words to say about Cassel when he ranked him the #2 worst 2014 starting quarterback:

Dec 29, 2013; Minneapolis, MN, USA; Minnesota Vikings quarterback Matt Cassel (16) claps following the game against the Detroit Lions at Mall of America Field at H.H.H. Metrodome. The Vikings defeated the Lions 14-13. Mandatory Credit: Brace Hemmelgarn-USA TODAY Sports

Similarly to Jacksonville, Minnesota fans (including Prince) have had to suffer through years of wasted Adrian Peterson watching a series of underperforming quarterbacks traipse in and out of their locker room to no avail. What separates Minny from Jacksonville, though, is that they’ve got Adrian Peterson and playoff aspirations, and while MJD was a great running back, he’s no All Day. In that regard, then, Cassel — who had his best years in New England and Kansas City going 10-5 with both teams — is an even worse eventuality than Henne, or anyone else listed here so far. The Vikings have said that Cassel, Christian Ponder, and newly drafted Teddy Bridgewater will battle for the starting spot, and that’s just depressing when we look at the phenomenon they’re squandering:

(then he inserted a highlight video of Adrian Peterson)

I might be one of the few people left that see Cassel as a better option than many of the others on this list.  Last year, Cassel played in 9 games for the Minnesota Vikings where he ended up with a record of 5-4.  He threw more touchdowns than interceptions.  He was even named FedEx Air Player of the Week for his week 12 performance against the Philadelphia Eagles.

While I’m firmly on the Teddy Bridgewater bandwagon, I wouldn’t feel as horribly uncomfortable with the idea of Matt Cassel starting.  The writer of that article did make a valid point about the window closing on Adrian Peterson, but that’s no reason to rush a quarterback into the fray before he is ready and risk the long term development.  Whoever ends up winning the competition in camp to be the Minnesota Vikings starting quarterback will have some great weapons, a new system, and a new offensive coordinator to help him this year.

Still, I’d rather have Matt Cassel at the helm than Chad Henne, Jake Locker, or several other quarterbacks slated to start this year.

Tags: Adrian Peterson Matt Cassel Minnesota Vikings

  • Bob T

    Thank you for the enjoyable read Mr. Carlson. SKOL VIKINGS!!!!

    • https://www.facebook.com/PurplePeoplePodcast Adam Carlson

      Thanks for reading! Can’t wait to see what happens in this QB competition this year. Should be exciting.

    • Adam B. Carlson

      Thanks for reading! Can’t wait to see what happens in this QB competition this year. Should be exciting.

  • trinity

    The guy is right, Matt is most definitely one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the league. just because he’s the best option doesn’t change that. all that means is that ponder sucks even more than Matt sucks, and teddy isn’t ready. if Matt Cassel is your best quarterback option, you know you’re doomed.

    • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

      Depends how well he plays in Norv’s system. He has never played in Norv’s system. Just as Christian never has played in Norv’s system. Right now? Yes Matt and Christian would be one of the worst starting QB’s in the NFL. But, this is an entire new system, I think we will be looking at a much higher ranked qb this year, no matter whether it’s Matt, Christian, or Teddy. The system is just better for QB’s. You will see more picking teams apart, just as other teams do us.

      • Daniel Laxen

        Ponder will not be given the chance to start for the Vikings this year unless 1, or both QBs ahead of him are injured…Just because Ponder hasn’t played in Norv’s scheme makes little difference. He’s NOT getting reps in Mini Camp and the OTAs, so he’s the odd man out…No matter what you say about Ponder, you have to read the writing on the wall, and it’s all over it as of now!

        • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

          While most people only see two, there are many sides to a coin. Yesterday all the Quarterbacks received a significant amount of reps. Going in to OTA’s Christian Received significant amount of reps. Did you ever think perhaps that Christian being very, very smart, caught on to the playbook quicker than the other two and perhaps didn’t need as many reps? The goal of OTA’s and Mini-camp for the QB’s was afterall to evaluate how quickly they could get up to speed and perform in Norve’s playbook. Christian, at Mini-Camp was 100% successful in all the drills performed. He was the only QB that was 100% successful. Obviously, going in the idea was probably to get Teddy ready and make sure Cassel is solid as the starter. Coming out of Mini-Camp, I think Christian Raised a few eyebrows, and I believe they are not 100% convinced of Matt Cassel, especially after failing on all the 2 min.drills. I say Teddy will start Pre-Season day one and Christian Ponder will be his safety net. But, I don’t think we will get a clear picture until half way through Pre-season. “Game day is really the only true judge of a quarterback.”

          • Daniel Laxen

            Obviously you don’t subscribe to the beat writers and talking heads out of Minnesota. The reps you refer to were significantly less than Teddy and Cassel received…Go to You Tube and watch 1500ESPN Twin Cities and see what those cats say. More often than not they re spot on. Despite your man crush on Ponder, actions speak louder than words…Now Jennings is speaking up about Ponder, so there’s even more graffiti on that wall…The Vikings openly shopped Ponder before the draft and that rolled snake eyes. When not 1 team would offer a 7th round pick for him what does that say?…As one of the only Ponder apologist that remain I’d hope you could dig deeper and offer one ounce proof to the claims you continue to make…

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            This is where you go wrong. You are assuming I like Christian ponder in any shape or form. I am just saying what I see.. I don’t have an affinity for him as a person. I like to think I am a really good judge of talent. Just like why I think Derek Carr will be a Super Star Quarterback in a few years. As far as Jennings, he has never liked ponder. Because Simpson is Ponders number 1, and has earned it. Jennings wants the ball thrown to him every down.. But Christian has been burned by Jennings dropping passes and running a bad route which led to an int. early in 2013, so he prefers Simpson, which is understandable. Wow, you make up a lot of bullshit. So, what team was Ponder Shopped around to? You are ridiculous. Keep it real and don’t make up stuff you know nothing about.

          • Daniel Laxen

            You are a joke dude! Ponder was on the market for a trade as soon as they didn’t pick up his option year and resigned Cassel. Then they draft another QB in the 1st round. Do you read, or watch anything else, or just this site? The one that makes shit up is you dude! Your fashion of reality must be interesting though…That’s why Carr went so high in the draft. Your judge of talent is evident by your constant defense of Ponder and his sub standard play…I’m going to Vegas to wager on Carr right now! What year was that again?…LOL

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Daniel I am glad you find me funny. I guess you can just call me the “Joker” from now on. People said the same thing to me about Drew Brees his first few years in San Diego, I told them, no you don’t understand this guys is good. They said he is a bust, he sucks, oh yeah he is going to get traded, why else did we take a QB(Eli Manning) in the first round? Then what he turned it around and is one of the Best QB’s in the NFL. Wait a second you are defending Cassel and attacking Ponder, by your logic it’s not even a debate. Cassel was undrafted. Ponder was a 1st round pick. Your logic defies logos. As far as what year? Who knows however long it takes.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Stop redirecting this. What you are not grasping is the direction the Vikings are moving. They don’t pick up Ponder’s option. They resign Cassel. They draft another QB in the 1st round, and Ponder’s NOT getting reps with the 1st team…

            Drew Brees was injured and only 1 other team showed interest in Brees, The Dolphins. How’d he gets into this discussion, I have no idea? What did WE ever do? That makes it sound like you are a Charger fan using the word we…They took Manning because he was a better option than a QB that had a major shoulder injury. Norv Turner was involved in that wasn’t he? The Chargers end up with Rivers and he’s had pretty good success. Eli Manning was NEVER going to play for the Chargers and everyone knew that. That’s why he was traded to the Giants. By the way they had, soon to be HoFer Kurt Warner on that team…

            My logic defies LOGOS? Maybe you are playing with Legos? Ponder is a bust! The Vikings have deemed it so. They no longer trust Ponder to run the offense. Evidently by showing he couldn’t run a playbook that could have been on a matchbook was the reason? Maybe because he couldn’t hit open receivers? Whatever it was, he’s on his way out of Minnesota unless backup QB is the position he’s playing for?

            Carr may well end up being the starter week 1 in Oakland. He has to beat out Matt Schaub, another QB with injury issues…Playing behind that O-line too early will be his downfall like his brother in Houston…Too many sacks makes once good QBs shy away from contact. Give me some time frame on Oakland making it back to the Super Bowl. I’m all ears!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I say 2017. They should be poised for it by then.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Hahahahaha! You slay me!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            And…your intellect definitely does nothing more than make me shake my head. I can go on and on about how just plain ignorant you are but I won’t. I will simply treat you like a child and explain it again. Arron Rodgers was not a number 1 overall pick. Okay done with that one. Do you get it? Like I said, you are just plain oblivious so frequently, that it does not even make for an intelligent conversation. You obviously think that the stork delivers Superbowl champion quarterbacks, I will just leave it at that.

          • Daniel Laxen

            If you honestly believe that the Vikings offense ran better with Ponder as opposed to Cassel then why is Cassel listed as the starter right now? (Because you aren’t running the team thank God!)…Why is Ponder the 3rd string QB at this point right now? Why did the Vikings NOT pick up the option year for Ponder? Finally, why do you, or anyone still believe in the guy. When he falls so far short at playing the QB position. Ponder’s a dumpster fire! There’s the proof that Cassel ran the offense better. The entire NEW coaching staff feels this way as well…

            When did we EVER start out a conversation about a #1 overall QB? While we are at it, Bridgewater was thought of early on in the draft process as a possible #1 overall, like Rodgers was considered. They both free fell leading up to the draft. Rodgers after the 49ers took Smith. Teddy because of a bad pro day?..

            Compare Brees to Ponder for 3 years and Brees’ numbers tower over Ponder’s you tool! TDs to INTs look like this. Brees 55 TDs to 38 INTs. Ponder 38 TDs to 34 INTs…Wins, Brees 21-21. Ponder, 14-20-1. Ponder couldn’t stay healthy either…

            The year the Vikings made the playoffs he was pathetic! At this point Ponder may not have a 4th or 5th year as a starter. You compare these 2 QBs and there is nothing to compare!…Intelligent and you do not equate either…

            Evidently you believe that by saying the Raiders will be a Super Bowl team by 2017. So the stork gave the Raiders a QB?…You should consider a standup routine you fool!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            You are either blind or you were kicked in the head as a child.(just a joke don’t take it personally). No offense but here are the actual stats.(not the Cracker Jack ones)
            Drew Brees 2001-2003 TD 29 Int 31
            Christian Ponder 2011-2013 TD 38 int 34.
            As far as the win loss record doesn’t mean diddly because San Diego had a #1 rated defense with Junior Seau, Donnie Edwards, Antonio Cromartie, Quentin Jammer, & Rodney Harrison. (yeah and the entire offensive line went to the pro bowl also) But I will humor you.
            Drew Brees from 2001-2003 10 wins 17 losses
            Christian Ponder from 2011-2013 14 wins 20 losses and 1 draw

            Now although Similar you put Christian Ponder on that team with Ladainian Tomlinson who was an elite dual threat, and that stacked San Diego Defense. I am pretty sure he would have fared far better than Breezy did.

            Again your mistake is proving my point. You keep adding in Drew Brees 4th year into the equation. That is my whole point, Christian Ponder is poised for that big 4th year.
            Pre-season we should have a good idea if he is headed toward that direction or the exit door. But if he shows dominance pre-season he has my full support to see what he can do this season.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Here’s some more relative stats about your boy Ponder in his best season…Ponder had only 3 games all year where he passed for over 250 yards. One of those was an overtime game to start the season 266 yards. 258 yards vs. the Titans and his best stat game of his year vs. the Redskins where the Vikings got throttled and the Vikings settled for FGs instead of TDs.(I know blame Musgrave) Ponder threw 2 horrible INTs. The last ended the Vikings chance of any type comeback. Did I mention he also fumbled and was responsible for all 3 of the Vikings turnovers that day?…Soon after Ponder’s confidence was shot and he began his slide into a 3rd string QBs job for the Vikings. More from 2012, like when Ponder threw for 44 yards, 43, yards, 77, 100 yards, 109 yards, and 119 yards. AP carried that team! Did I mention that this was his BEST season? He averaged 172 yards a game passing!!!…It’s hilarious, and you still believe he’s the next Drew Brees…I’m not the only one laughing at you, dude!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Yes, and he also threw for 381 yards and 3 tds his rookie year in a game without AP playing, against one of the top passing defenses in the NFL. So saying AP carried the team is ridiculous. He didn’t even play this game. AP although maybe good for the team, was holding Christian Ponder hostage. Look at his games without AP. His stats went through the roof. I am not saying he is a great QB. He hasn’t proved that. But he has flashed evidence of it. As far as you showing dismal passing yards when he is getting 20 passing attempts a game is just infantile. Russel Wilson won the Superbowl with 12 sub 250 yard games. Just FYI.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Your are simply a Charger troll…A ponder apologist, and someone who obviously changes the subject any time your theories are blown out of the water…

            So Ponder threw 1 game of nearly 400 yards. AP carried the team the best year Ponder ever had. That’s NOT disputable!

            His game went through the roof? No, he had to throw more often and quite possibly because the Vikings were behind in the game and only Toby to rely on. You compared Ponder to Drew Brees and it’s not even worth arguing the point any longer. You are as wrong as you could possibly be…

            What Christian Ponder has proved is that he’s inconsistent, poor with his accuracy, a horrible decision maker on the field. There’s a reason the Vikings threw limited in his starts. He was ineffective and had lost confidence, with each and every horrible INT he threw. The coaching staff scaled the playbook back because of that. I’m NOT saying Musgrave’s play calling was good by any means, but by allowing AP to continue to run the ball as much as possible a couple years ago, somehow they snuck in the playoffs…

            Russell Wilson did what he had to do relying on “Beast Mode” and a stellar defense. What he did was what Ponder was supposed to do. NOT LOSE THE GAME! His decision making dwarfed Ponder’s inability of the same type. Sure the Vikings defense was no where near that of the Seahawks, but that’s NOT what’s in question. Sometimes you take the sack. Some times you throw the ball away. Ponder tried to make something out of nothing far too many times as the starter…

            I refer you to last years Detroit game as an example of that. Late in the 1st half, with the Vikings ahead and driving he throws one of the most egregious INTs I’ve ever saw. That led to the Lions scoring a TD and changing the game. The Vikings went on to lose that contest, and it’s because Ponder made another boneheaded play. That’s merely 1 example of horrible throws…

            Please don’t offer a response if you continue to “beat a dead horse.”

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I agree about what CP7 was suppose to do. Russell Wilson had far better coaches and a decent qb to sit behind and learn. I think he needs to be evaluated at some point this pre-season.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Who did Russell Wilson learn from? He won the starting job as a rookie! Come on dude!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Pete Carroll( a good coach) and Matt Flynn( I am sure helped in Training camp but sort of like Cassel is helping Bridgewater(not super instrumental). Alright, alright. I am just messing with you. Yes Russell Wilson was and has been far more consistent in his QB play than CP7, and no he probably didn’t learn much during training camp taking reps behind Flynn. But, I do like the pass plays that Seattle has over the Musgrave spread trying to find the small holes on the short game, which worked well with Percy Harvin, but not really anybody else. Also, the downfield blocking from the WR hasn’t been strong enough to make that work. Jennings is a decent blocker at times, Joe Webb actually, for what limited time he had at WR, was a fantastic downfield Blocker. Norve Turner will really make sure that the Blocking assignments are executed properly. Which may be a struggle for Jerome Simpson.
            Daniel have you seen what Robert Reidell wrote on Rant sports? He said Christian Ponder looked the worst of any player in mini-camp. “5 biggest duds from Minnesota Training Camp” He is, by the article, suggesting, by the conflicting report he provides, that Ben at ESPN, and Wobby at Vikings and the Star Tribune have been lying in their Coverage. If his reports are even remotely accurate then you might be right? It kind of is hard to believe that Vikings reporters would blatantly lie? Maybe Robert is just senile? Who knows, but I thought you would find it interesting. He writes some bizarre articles though, like how Brandon Flowers would be a “shutdown” corner and get Minnesota to the playoffs. Read his latest Minnesota articles and let me know what you think. Maybe he is just making up stuff for sensationalism or he just hates Christian Ponder. Either way I thought it was interesting.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Matt Flynn, you are kidding, right? I didn’t believe Wilson would start, but I was wrong. Wilson played QB for 5 years in college. Was a great baseball player as well. That equals a great athlete. He is smart as well. He never lost confidence like Ponder did. Sometimes the stage is too big, or the game just doesn’t slow down enough for a QB or any player for that matter. That’s what Ponder’s problems stem from. His weakish arm doesn’t help him either. All you have to do is see the play chart that Musgrave held early in the year, as opposed to the one he had later and you know that he just didn’t have the tools to develop in that offense that tried to feature AP…Ponder may well go on to be a decent backup, but his days as a starter in the NFL are done, unless injury causes him to have to play…I’ll try to look at that article, but it will simply echo what I’ve been saying…He’s simply NOT an NFL caliber starting QB!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I think Wilson is a good athlete with good skills, but I don’t think Pete is 100% sold on him. Otherwise, I don’t think they would have picked up Terrelle Pryor in the off season, who by the way was an “Amazing” College QB. It will be interesting to see what they do with him. I think TJax, might be on the way out.

          • Daniel Laxen

            OK, you don’t hand over the reins to a rookie QB unless you are COMPLETELY sold on him…Pryor is an athlete and not a QB. His time with Oakland was short and being picked in the 3rd round of the Supplemental Draft doesn’t exactly scream confidence about a player. Tarvaris Jackson comes to mind, just not as good…

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I don’t buy that, a lot of starting qb’s do not have their HC’s 100% convinced.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Buy it or not the Seahawks paid a back up, big money, to play and the Rookie beat him out. Pete Carroll was convinced or he wouldn’t have gotten the opportunity. That back up couldn’t even land a job where the starter was injured on 2 teams. Landing back with the Packers behind another back up…Coaches are convinced or they struggle with NO QB…When you have 2 QBs on a team you really have NO QBs on that team. Exception the 49ers with Montana and Young…

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Convinced… to be a starter yes, long term solution, I am not sure Car Pete is completely convinced. Pete is a smart guy and good with QB’s so, it makes sense for him to keep looking. A lot of coaches aren’t good with developing young QB’s. Maybe he is not convinced with T Jax as the Back up then. One or the other, because it doesn’t make sense him picking up Terrell like that unless he has plans for him.

          • Daniel Laxen

            It’s probably more about price of the contract more than anything else and TJack was awful as well.

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I am thinking that he just remembers how good Terrelle Pryor was in college and feels he might be able to pull a diamond out of the rough. Terelle is still an amazing athlete although a fairly bad nfl qb up to this point.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Ok, read the slide show stuff. That guy with the microphone isn’t Robert Reidell. That’s a long time beat writer, his name escapes me? (I want to say Sid Hartman)…Everything I heard out of mini camp was true. Ponder got almost zero time with the starters and his reps were limited. Everyone has said the same stuff Ponder’s days are limited in Minnesota

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Daniel, I watched full footage, and Robert Reidell is making up shit just trying to create controversy. CP7 Is throwing bullets downfield. His throw were the most accurate of the three. Cassel threw hard but a little inaccurate and tunnel vision. Bridgewater looked accurate but threw really soft, kind of like CP7 used to throw. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

          • Daniel Laxen

            You are a troll dude! Why do you continue to make shit up? Go back and watch your Charger stuff and stay off the Vikings pages…

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            What am I trolling for exactly? I just thought you might be interested. Never mind then.

          • Daniel Laxen

            You need to watch the video from bleacher report about Ponder. The only person making stuff up about his performance is you!…Stocks up, stocks down from Minnesota Vikings Mandatory Minicamp…It’s on this site…I suggest you watch them all.

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I could debate forever, as too many holes in argument. LT didn’t have to worry about 4-6 defense because the oline was far more physical than Minnesota’s has been. They also had Lorenzo Neal, who has been known to straight knock 2-3 defenders Dline, lb, and safeties flat on their backsides. True LT didn’t have the huge runs AP does, but he had more TD’s and would top 2100 combined yards. They did far more short routes. Also, LT while not the “Big play” guy he did get consistent yardage. Again stronger Oline. Enough though. You are missing my point. My point is CP7 has shown he is capable at times. It is too premature to write him off without testing him at some point this year.

          • Daniel Laxen

            Drew Brees played 1 game in 01 and he didn’t start. That year is not even usable for Christ’s sake!…In 02 the Pro Bowl players for the Chargers were Edwards, Seau, and LT. In 03 the Chargers had ZERO Pro Bowlers, NONE! In 04 The Chargers had 3 Pro Bowlers. LT, Antonio Gates and a guy named Drew Brees…Furthermore that vaunted defense you are speaking of in 02 was ranked 22 in points allowed and 30th in yards allowed. In 03 they were 31st in points and 27th in yards. In 04 they improved to a middle of the pack defense finishing 11th in points allowed and 18th in yards allowed. Where are those O-line Pro Bowlers?

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            How many turnovers did that Vaunting defense create? LOL, really their defense was not Vaunting? How many turnovers did they create? Guys like Junior Seau, Donnie Edward Quinton Jammer, and Rodney Harrison, aren’t great? You are ridiculous. And yes, a year training, learning and being groomed for NFL level play under decent O.C. and QB coaches, definitely counts. As far as me saying they were Pro Bowl Players, I just mean they have gone to the Pro Bowl, not that they all went that season. Obviously there are some Politics involved with that. But did they play at a pro bowl level. I am not going to give you a laundry list of the Pro Bowl Caliber line they had, but I will put it this way, LT was one of the top rushers year end and year out and the Quarterbacks had plenty of time to throw the ball downfield.

          • Daniel Laxen

            I was talking about the Charger’s defense, but as usual you’ll change whatever argument you try to make by going in another direction, as these posts have shown…

            The team YOU mentioned had all those Pro Bowlers on it.(perhaps they were Pro Bowlers in different years? Which many were)) I clearly blew that statement out of the water, as many of your other asinine comments. You are a Charger Troll and that’s all! Problem is you don’t even use verifiable stats to back your lame arguments. I simply go down the post you make, and rip apart every comment you try so ineffectively to make…

            No you stated that Drew Brees had a great defense, and a O-line, littered with Pro Bowlers, which I proved to be untrue when Brees played for them. Their worst year NOT 1 player made the Pro Bowl…

            There’s a reason you won’t give a list of those players. It’s because they weren’t playing at a Pro Bowl level when Brees was the QB…

            I guess what LT and AP bring to the table are different? How many times did LT rush for 2000 yards in a season? How often did the defense the Charges play, play 8 or even 9 men in the box to stop LT? Not nearly as many as the Vikings faced that lone playoff year, when AP was running wild, that’s for sure! All you had to do was watch when Favre played and you’ll soon realize that a competent QB that faces single high safety coverage can beat that coverage with regularity. Then the entire game opens up. In Christian Ponder’s case he couldn’t do that on any type of regular basis and that’s why the Vikings offense failed to be consistent…

            Again, you try to change what you said. Spin the discussion in a nonrelative direction and make yourself look foolish all the while…

          • Daniel Laxen

            In 04 and 05 the Chargers with Brees playing QB finished 3rd in points and 10th in yards offensively. In 05 Brees’ last season with the club finish 5th and 10th…Comparing Ponder to Brees is asinine!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            I was explaining to you that Christian Ponder is a lot like Drew Brees, a really bright guy that was put in a bad situation, so the Chargers just like Minnesota Drafted a Quarterback. But Brees put team in such a bad place 2003 going 2-9 and Flutie Came in for a trial run 2-3 midseason, but they went back to Drew Brees kind of how they did Christian Ponder until he got hurt. Now, Christian Ponder is ten times better than Drew Brees was the first three years of his career, I especially say that because Ponder had a 10-6 year with Adrian Peterson getting 2000 yards. Drew Brees went 2-9 with Ladainian Tomlinson going for a combined 2100 yards. They are both smart and smart guys tend to have a longer learning curve than naturally talented guys. But when it clicks it clicks. Smart guys win SuperBowls, naturally talented guys Like Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russel, Vince Young, Tavaris Jackson, Terrelle Pryor, they come in strong but fizzle. You watch. Christian Ponder is a Drew Brees type player. By the way, Drew Brees was on his way out before he got injured(just like Ponder), they just wanted to make sure Rivers(just like Bridgewater) was ready. You don’t draft a number 1 overall pick at QB to have him ride the pine. You also do realize that Christian Ponder was the most Productive Quarterback that Bill Musgrave has ever had running his system? The 2012 Season was the Best Results that Bill Musgraves OC System ever had. So, you can’t tell me that Christian is, without a doubt, a poor QB. I say try to sign him on to a couple year deal, and develop him, because you know Teddy, even if he is everything and more, is going to get hurt during the season. Cassel, well I don’t trust him, he has too many games where he throws 3 interceptions and plays miserably. It is his poor decision making and poor mechanics on the midfield throws, that will get batted down and tipped for interceptions. If Minnesota does not sign him before the end of the year, I guarantee you the Saints will sign him very quickly.

          • Daniel Laxen

            How is Drew Brees remotely equivalent to Christian Ponder? The 2 years prior to his Free Agent departure he amassed a 20-11 win loss mark. The last game of the season he received a career threatening shoulder injury. His completion % towers over Ponder at that point. His yards per completion is nearly double Ponders. Nearly everyone of Brees’ advanced passing stats are over 100 where Ponders are nearly ALL under average…

            Ponder may have excelled in the classroom, but he’s been an absolute travesty on the field…Marty decided that Rivers was more of his style player and the injury sealed Drew Brees fate, and ticket to the Saints…Brees’ problems may well have been related to Marty ball and Cam Cameron’s shitty excuse for play calling an ultra conservative play calling scheme. A couple years later that opened up because of the players they had. Brees got hurt and they went with the new QB in Phillip Rivers…

            There are only two similarities between the two players. The difference was that Brees could deliver the ball on time with accuracy and was consistent, where Ponder cannot and the defenses gave up a ton of points as well, often leaving the Chargers behind…

            Take a look at the 2005 season and you see that there was a draft for the Chargers like no other…

            You don’t draft a QB to ride the pine? Tell that to Aaron Rodgers!…Musgrave trimmed the playbook because Ponder couldn’t run the offense. How many under 100 yard passing days did Ponder have that 2012 season? At least 3 maybe 4! That’s unacceptable in high school these days! AP’s 2000 yard season was the only thing that saved the Vikings that year. They won 4 straight on the back of AP and like 900 yards rushing those games. ponder made a couple plays down the stretch, but the back breaker was AP’s long run to get them into FG position…

            So Mr. Soothsayer, what makes you believe that Teddy Bridgewater will get hurt? I’ll wait…He doesn’t run nearly as much as Ponder or other QBs that run like Cam Newton, Kaepernick, or some of the others. He reminds me more of Russell Wilson. Trying to stay in the pocket and fleeing only when there is no other option…Might also check out what he did vs. the blitz in college. He led the nation by a wide margin…

            Cassel has more winning seasons and playoff berths than Ponder. The offense ran better with Cassel. The Vikings resigned Cassel and didn’t pick up Ponder’s option year. That should tell you something! You might want to look at the 2 young QBs behind Brees on the Saints roster before you go proclaiming what team Ponder may or may not go to…

            So yeah, I can tell you that Ponder is a shitty QB in the NFL!

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            Do you have ADD or just don’t listen? You are comparing years that Christian Ponder has yet to enter. Yes Brees was awesome two years removed from where Christian Ponder is right now. THAT was my whole POINT!!!!! As far as Cassel Running the offense better? Where is your proof. 2013 which was a bad Season for Christian and Minnesota, Christian Posted 28 point avg. per game running the offense. Matt Cassel, even with the defense providing 500% more turnovers than in Christian Ponders games, Matt Cassel posted 24 points per game. And a far worse 3rd down conversion rate. How can you say something as Asinine as Cassel runs the offense better. Prove it!!! Show me any Highlights from Matt Cassel that compares to Christian his rookie season. Christian has what it takes. He just needs a half ass defense and a half way decent coach and OC.

          • Daniel Laxen

            “Game day is really the only true judge of a quarterback.”
            Those are your words! Ponder has failed on game days way more often than not…

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            If avg. 28 points a game is failure than I guess you are correct.

  • Spencer V

    Another well written piece by Adam Carlson. I agree entirely when you argue that Cassel, while certainly not good, isn’t terrible. He showed enough ability last year to keep us in games and picked up more wins than losses while opposing teams racked up the time of possession and points against the painfully outmatched Vikings defense. With every level of defense improved this year and the probable emergence of CP and other weapons, Cassel’s stat sheet could look much more sound at the end of this season (however many games he plays until Bridgewater takes over).

  • Don Andrew Halvorson

    Who is in Houston? A scarecrow?

    • https://www.facebook.com/PurplePeoplePodcast Adam Carlson

      Fitzpatrick was the author of the original article’s #1 worst starting QB. It is no wonder that Andre Johnson isn’t happy in Houston…

    • Adam B. Carlson

      Fitzpatrick was the author of the original article’s #1 worst starting QB. It is no wonder that Andre Johnson isn’t happy in Houston…

  • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

    Just correction Adam Carlson, Matt’s Official record last year was 3-3 not 5-4.

    • https://www.facebook.com/PurplePeoplePodcast Adam Carlson

      You’re counting starts, i’m counting games played in. Just using different measuring sticks.

    • Adam B. Carlson

      My comments don’t look to be showing up, so I’ll use my personal account.

      You’re counting starts, i’m counting games played in. Just using different measuring sticks.

      • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

        So, you are counting coming in the closing minutes of the Redskins game, as a back-up on mop up duty with a good lead, as a win? That’s more than a stretch. I am just going by the NFL standards. If they change to say the way MLB pitchers get a win/loss, then I could see a 4-3,(as he should get credit for the Bears game) But 5-4 just makes no sense. Like you say different measuring sticks….lol.

        • Adam B. Carlson

          I don’t know anything about baseball pitchers, sorry. I was just counting any game that he saw action in. Yes, he only threw 6 passes in the Washington game, but he still saw time, so I included it.
          I guess we could do this: games last year where he had over 20 pass attempts. He would be 4-3 in that situation. How does that sound?

          • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

            lol…sounds about right. Good read, thanks Adam.

  • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2844586/ JJSamurai

    The one thing I love about Matt is that he can Tackle a guy after he has been intercepted. The thing I hate is that he has gotten good at that over the years.

  • MikeH123

    Cassel is a huge risk, lacks a big arm and must throw to 3 WRs that all belong in slot (Patterson, Jennings and Wright). They lack a deep threat X WR, won’t be able to stretch the field and AD will pay the price with 8 man boxes.

    • Tim Clark

      Jerome had the 6th best deep-ball catch rate of all NFL receivers last year, catching 10/10 catchable passes over 25 yards. He also had the 17th best drop rate (that is 17th best at not dropping the ball). Jennings had 14th best drop rate.

      Jarius has a high YPC rate, and with his hands and speed, may be actually better suited as a deep threat than a slot threat.

      Jennings can play slot or outside, and was successful last year in both positions. He is still elusive even if he has lost a step, and HE IS ALWAYS OPEN. If Patterson can improve his longball hands/concentration and become a more fluid route-runner, he has the speed to become a deep threat as well. Finally Thielen has good speed and good hands and is showing some talent in preseason so far. There is alot more deep-ball talent here, and overall receiving talent, than you give them credit for, and with a new system that will actually put them into position to make plays, the 13th best offense can only get better. If Cassel can’t get them the ball, I am sure Teddy can.

      • MikeH123

        Offenses need a (size/speed) deep threat at the outside X WR position that can make defenses pay (WITH TDs) for loading the box. Simpson has the size but falls short on speed (4.47-40) and has only 8 career TDs (only 1 last year). Like you said, Jennings has lost a step and probably isn’t even fast enough for Z WR, so the Vikings are moving him to slot where it is difficult to get deep. Patterson has just enough size and speed (4.42-40) to gain a step on DBs but like you said lacks the deep threat skills for even Z WR let alone X WR. Thielen isn’t fast enough (4.46-40). Wright is too small for the outside.

        • Tim Clark

          Turner has already said he will give all the WRs reps at all the spots to keep the D guessing. Jennings had alot of reps on the outside last year, and was ALWAYS OPEN. Problem was, Ponder ignored him. His numbers improved drastically when Cassel started. Don’t blame Jennings numbers on his speed, he has the moves to get open inside or outside, he just needs more reliable QB play.

          How did Simpson catch 10/10 catchable deep balls last year if he was too slow? Sorry, 4.47 is not too slow to be an outside or deep threat. Same can be said for Thielen. VERY FEW WRs in the league are 4.4 or faster.

          Wright can make those deep catches from the slot or from outside. His hands, speed, concentration and technique make up for the size limitation. Most deep threats in the history of the league were smaller fast players. DeSean is 5-10/178…… is he a deep threat?

          • MikeH123

            You are confusing deep threats with an X WR deep threat. An X WR must have both size (6′+ and 200 lbs) to beat jams on the line and speed (under 4.43-40 and preferably under 4.40-40) to get behind defenders. Jennings and Simpson are too slow to get behind defenders. Simpson may catch long balls due to his height, leaping ability and skills but he won’t take it to the house. Case in point was his great over the shoulder catch. A faster WR may have caught that on the run. Like DeSean Jackson, Wright lacks the size to beat jams on the line. These types of players are played either in the slot or sometimes on the outside at Z WR where they can play off the line. There have been Z WR deep threats but that doesn’t change the need for a deep threat at the X position like Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones etc.

  • Cool Jack

    Well written Adam.Fans have to remember that we led 5-6 games last year we should have won but the defense let us down…mainly by poor coaching…..!

  • Bob T

    Adam, looking forward to your position battle… linebacker piece. My biggest concern this year and will be interested in your take. It’s going to be hard waiting for 5 weeks for training camp.

    • Adam B. Carlson

      I’m scared to write that piece. There are a few thing I have to say that will be unpopular, but overall it is one of the toughest competitions on this team (including cornerback and safety)

  • unclejesse40

    And don’t look at Cassel’s final couple of years at KC, that place was a flippin nightmare with Pioli and the Haley, Crennel mess. No QB except the elites could have survived that cluster.